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    Oil Change Info - From Yanmar

    The great oil debate got me interested so I decided to get to the bottom of it.

    I called Yanmar. Spoke to a service engineer in the industrial engine dept.

    Question : In your engines that are shipped to John Deere for installation in their compact
    tractors, what oil are they shipped with?

    Answer : None, they are shipped dry. Deere takes it from there and I would guess that
    they are then equipped with break-in oil.

    Question : What would you recommend using?

    Answer : If it's for a Deere tractor, whatever Deere says.

    Question : If it's not in a Deere tractor what would you recommend using?

    Answer : Break in oil for the first 100 hours.

    So, there you have it. Straight from the horses mouth.

    Yanmar Engines : 770 877-9894

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    Quote Originally Posted by steveontheridge2 View Post
    The great oil debate got me interested so I decided to get to the bottom of it.

    I called Yanmar. Spoke to a service engineer in the industrial engine dept.

    Question : In your engines that are shipped to John Deere for installation in their compact
    tractors, what oil are they shipped with?

    Answer : None, they are shipped dry. Deere takes it from there and I would guess that
    they are then equipped with break-in oil.

    Question : What would you recommend using?

    Answer : If it's for a Deere tractor, whatever Deere says.

    Question : If it's not in a Deere tractor what would you recommend using?

    Answer : Break in oil for the first 100 hours.

    So, there you have it. Straight from the horses mouth.

    Yanmar Engines : 770 877-9894
    So in my owners manual, they only mention changing the engine oil every 200 hours. No mention of changing it before the first 200. So I assume that is why there is no mention of break in oil because it's done it's job before the first change.
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    I sure would have never guessed they were shipped sans oil. I wonder if Yanmar charges Deere extra for the assembled-dry-overly-tightened oil filters?
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    I guessed right. Winner Winner Chicken Dinner! I filled mine back up with breakin oil day before yesterday. Was starting to wonder if I wasted my effort. Thanks for answering the long, lloooonnnngggg, talked about question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    I sure would have never guessed they were shipped sans oil. I wonder if Yanmar charges Deere extra for the assembled-dry-overly-tightened oil filters?
    It wouldn’t be new if the filter wasn’t painted over and installed dry and over-tight.
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    Soooo... do you think Yanmar test runs these engines and then drains the oil out before shipping to JD or do you think JD is doing the first start and initial test run?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    Soooo... do you think Yanmar test runs these engines and then drains the oil out before shipping to JD or do you think JD is doing the first start and initial test run?
    Good question. My machine hrs are 24 Less than motor hrs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Big View Post
    Good question. My machine hrs are 24 Less than motor hrs.
    How are machine hrs different from engine hrs? I can't find anything in the manuals about this.

    What is the approximate percentage of your machine hrs to engine hrs and why do you think there is such a difference? I mean, 24 hrs less than 400 hrs doesn't seem all that bad but 24 hrs less than 75 hrs is a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    How are machine hrs different from engine hrs? I can't find anything in the manuals about this.

    What is the approximate percentage of your machine hrs to engine hrs and why do you think there is such a difference? I mean, 24 hrs less than 400 hrs doesn't seem all that bad but 24 hrs less than 75 hrs is a lot.

    Crazy thing is my engine is around 76hrs. So you weren't far off. Machine is 50 something. I'll check shortly as I have a couple of 20ton piles of #57 stone to move around

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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    Soooo... do you think Yanmar test runs these engines and then drains the oil out before shipping to JD or do you think JD is doing the first start and initial test run?
    I would guess the first start is when the tractor moves off the assembly line. For the smaller engines. Guessing when you get into larger more expensive engines they are broken in on a stand/dyno unit. But certainly not for 100hrs. Probably 30mins to break in the valve train?
    Last edited by Bulitt; 02-24-2018 at 10:29 AM.
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