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    Defective transmission oil heater?

    I had my dealer install a block heater and a transmission oil heater in my 2032R. I plugged both of them in to test them. The block heater got hot to the touch in a few minutes, the transmission oil heater did not. I tested for continuity, made sure the plug was making contact, all seemed good. I left it plugged in for an hour and it was still cold to the touch.

    I tried both with my inverter generator. When I plug in the block heater, the RPMs surge quite a bit, sensing the load. When I plug in the transmission oil heater, the RPMs raise slightly...very slightly. It's hard to notice, but definitely there. So something is happening. I'm just not sure what. I tried trimming some rubber off the plug in case the contacts were too deep, but that didn't change anything.

    So is it possible that this thing is defective? How would it even be defective, it's just a metal loop!
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    It's certainly possible it could be defective... I mean anything can be bad out of the box.

    How did you test them for warmth if they are installed in the tractor?

    What is the resistance of the transmission heater compared to the block heater?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    What is the resistance of the transmission heater compared to the block heater?
    I can't test the block heater...can barely get to it with my hand.

    EDIT: I mean...I could always remove stuff to get to it, but I'm not that motivated right now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    How did you test them for warmth if they are installed in the tractor?
    Sorry...didn't notice this question before. By touching the brass part that on the outside of the tractor. As I said above, the block heater one was very warm after a few minutes, the transmission one was cold to the touch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike01 View Post
    I can't test the block heater...can barely get to it with my hand.

    EDIT: I mean...I could always remove stuff to get to it, but I'm not that motivated right now.
    Doesn't it have an electrical cord attached to it? You can simply measure the resistance at the end of the cord. ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgayman View Post
    Doesn't it have an electrical cord attached to it? You can simply measure the resistance at the end of the cord. ;-)
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    I feel dumb. It's been a long day!!

    Okay, I will go measure.
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    Alright...33 ohms for the block heater, and 98 for the transmission heater. EDIT: I tested the transmission heater at the cord prongs and at the actual heater prongs, so I know now that the cord is fine.

    That...doesn't sound wrong. The transmission oil heater is a much larger/longer element than the block heater. Maybe it's designed to work slowly so as not to ignite the transmission oil?? (I'm just grasping at straws here)
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    I would think an easy test, though not fast, would be to check the temperature of the trans, near the heater. Then plug in the heater for a few hours and check again for a difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike01 View Post
    Alright...33 ohms for the block heater, and 98 for the transmission heater. EDIT: I tested the transmission heater at the cord prongs and at the actual heater prongs, so I know now that the cord is fine.

    That...doesn't sound wrong. The transmission oil heater is a much larger/longer element than the block heater. Maybe it's designed to work slowly so as not to ignite the transmission oil?? (I'm just grasping at straws here)
    Those heaters are made by ZeroStart. I tried to look up which one the new 2032R used but didn't have any luck. It looks like some of them are 150W and others are 300W. 98 ohms would be about right for a 150W heater. I'm not even sure where it screws in on the Gen2 2-series. I have a 2720 and think the transmission heater is located at a different spot.

    I don't think you need to worry about the heater igniting the oil but if it were too hot it could cook the oil close to the element.
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    Where is yours located? My 2038r which I thought would be the same is right there. Just checked it 99ohms.
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