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    How Do You Know When the Load is Too Heavy?

    For a front end loader or fork lift, how do you know if you are trying to lift something that is too heavy for your equipment?

    Do you:
    1. Know the limits of the equipment, estimate the weight of the load and don't try to lift something that is at or exceeds the limit.
    2. Just try to lift the load and if it works you are ok.
    3. Observe how the tractor is groaning, popping or bogging down to determine that the load is too heavy.

    If your answer is #3, what do you listen for?
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    D.) All of the Above


    IME, the first few times you play with any piece of equipment it's a bit of a crapshoot. You guesstimate if you don't have hard numbers. You learn pretty quickly how the piece of equipment "feels" under load. You'll notice the sounds it makes as it strains and you'll feel how the steering and the ride changes under the weight of the load. With too much load the steering gets harder and the ride tends to get bouncy. I've trained people how to run forklifts for years and I tell every single one of them the same thing - for the first month (assuming daily usage here) assume everything is twice as heavy as you think it is and operate the equipment at a max of half speed. Over time you gain the feel for the equipment as well as build confidence in what you're doing.
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    Assuming proper ballast, if the load if too heavy to lift-then the machine simply wont lift it.


    Take your time, go slow and keep the load low.
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    Quote Originally Posted by briansims View Post
    For a front end loader or fork lift, how do you know if you are trying to lift something that is too heavy for your equipment?

    Do you:
    1. Know the limits of the equipment, estimate the weight of the load and don't try to lift something that is at or exceeds the limit.
    2. Just try to lift the load and if it works you are ok.
    3. Observe how the tractor is groaning, popping or bogging down to determine that the load is too heavy.

    If your answer is #3, what do you listen for?
    My short answer is #2, but I should explain further.
    I would first ask myself:
    1. Do I have enough rear ballast? I have a backhoe as my ballast and it is just about the upper limit of what I need for the limit of the FEL.
    2. If I don't have enough ballast what can happen? Without enough ballast, the rear wheels can lift, and since the front axle on many tractors is not "fixed" but on a center pivot, unloading the rear wheels can be disastrous.
    3. How much do I want to lift? I know the limits of my FEL ... with the backhoe as the ballast I have. On my tractor, it is about 850 lbs, more or less, depending on my bucket or forks. If I know that the load on a pallet is say, 2000 lbs, I already know I can't lift it. If I think I can lift something, I would try, but only with maximum rear ballast.
    4. With max ballast, my FEL will lift only until the hydraulic system goes into bypass, and you can hear the fluid bypass or the FEL just won't lift anymore.

    I have moved several large stumps with my FEL bucket (before I had forks). I knew I was at my lifting limit as I could only get it about 6" off the ground and no more. I was really careful with that load, and I had to move it down a slope. Moving on level ground, slight bouncing really unloaded my rear wheels quite a bit, so I just crept along. I went down the slope in reverse, but with GREAT care.

    Experience is your best teacher with the FEL, but if it doesn't feel right, don't do it.

    Just my 2 cents.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kennyd View Post
    Assuming proper ballast, if the load if too heavy to lift-then the machine simply wont lift it.


    Take your time, go slow and keep the load low.
    That is not true for forklifts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interceptor View Post
    That is not true for forklifts.
    It is for tractors.
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    All the above, plus...When my wife has to operate the controls while I manually help the hydraulics by lifting up on the bucket or forks. The hydraulics can hold more than it can lift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselshadow View Post
    It is for tractors.
    I would argue against that too, but I'm not an expert on tractors.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Interceptor View Post
    I would argue against that too, but I'm not an expert on tractors.
    Your loader manual will talk about proper ballast (how much weight located where on the tractor). Once the tractor is properly ballasted, you simply won't be able to lift the load above maximum capacity. The relief valve (if properly set) will open and prevent any further lifting.

    This is another reason for the proper ballast on the tractor. It's much safer and keeps you within safe operating limits of a tractor.

    Forklifts are a completely different animal as far as construction is concerned.
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