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    Looking at a used truck that has had issues.

    I am considering replacing my 2002 GMC 1500 4x4 pickup with about 121,000 miles on it.
    I found a nice 2013 GMC 1500 4x4 pickup at a local dealer. It has about 46,500 miles on it.
    I was excited about the truck until I read the car fax report. The truck was serviced in November of 2016 at 35,380 miles. On December 28, 2016 at 35,985 miles, a sensor was replaced.
    On January 20, 2017 at 35,388 miles the engine oil pump was replaced. The report does not say, but my guess is that it was the oil pressure sensor was replaced first. There was almost a month between the sensor & the pump being change. The truck was only driven 3 miles during that time.
    I am concerned about possible engine damage if the truck had low or no oil pressure.

    On April 25, 2017 at 38,045 miles, the report states that axles were replaced. It does not state if they were front or rear axles. Why would axles need to be replaced at 38,000 miles.

    The truck was traded in January of 2018 at 46,586 miles.

    Thoughts?
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    Generally if something looks too good to be true it probably is. I'm not sure you are going to get this cheap enough to cross your fingers about the story. It's entirely possible the oil pump was discovered without sustaining damage. It's equally possible it wasn't. I can think of several possibilities for axle replacement. I had a 94 GMC 6.5 Turbo diesel and if GM is still putting CV axles on the front, it could have easily been a torn boot on one. Flood damage, or a grenading rear could equally be possible. I'd definitely want the entire book on this one and a solid warranty clearly spelled out to boot. I have plenty of hobbies I enjoy. Visiting my truck at the dealership with the meter running isn't one of them.
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    my 2cts--sounds like this truck was in some waterme-i would pass on it.
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    In 2014, GM released the current generation of the Silverado / Sierra trucks. And, they were "buying your business" with huge markdowns on a variety of configurations. The Double Cab 4x4 models seemed to get a lot of incentive to be moved.

    What this ultimately means is that those trucks sold for about $32k-$35k new with a few options. A truck that sells low gets traded low, and should also get resold low. In other words, you should be able to find some reasonable prices on used trucks if you know how to shop.

    Look for trucks that have at least 4-6 months between the manufacture date and the original in-service date - there's a reasonable chance that these trucks sold for 15-20% off of sticker and you should be able to use that in your negotiations. If you shop a GM dealership, you can also pit the used prices against the new ones for some leverage as well.
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    Thanks to all for the input. I will pass on this one.
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    Couple of thoughts:

    - Shouldn't the selling dealer be able to pull the full service history for the vehicle? That would at least paint you a clearer picture of things.
    - Don't understand your comment: "report states that axles were replaced. It does not state if they were front or rear axles." If it was "axles" then it is both, right? Or are they talking about components of an axle, like gears or axle shaft?
    - Used stuff is used and is always a risk. Sometimes you luck out and find something in great shape without issues that was cared for well. Other times you have issues. When buying used you should always anticipate some repairs. That's the cost of the savings you got for not buying new. Hope it works. I try to avoid used for vehicles but I have seen it work out.
    - In this case, I'd suggest letting it go if the full service history doesn't allay your concerns. There are millions of used vehicles out there and probably something less risky

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    Quote Originally Posted by meburdick View Post
    In 2014, GM released the current generation of the Silverado / Sierra trucks. And, they were "buying your business" with huge markdowns on a variety of configurations. The Double Cab 4x4 models seemed to get a lot of incentive to be moved.

    What this ultimately means is that those trucks sold for about $32k-$35k new with a few options. A truck that sells low gets traded low, and should also get resold low. In other words, you should be able to find some reasonable prices on used trucks if you know how to shop.

    Look for trucks that have at least 4-6 months between the manufacture date and the original in-service date - there's a reasonable chance that these trucks sold for 15-20% off of sticker and you should be able to use that in your negotiations. If you shop a GM dealership, you can also pit the used prices against the new ones for some leverage as well.
    Do people really do things that way?? If I got a great deal on a vehicle, kept it a few years, and then went to sell or trade it I'd only let it go if I was getting a fair priced compared to the going market rate on sale or trade-ins. I would never think "yeah, I bought this for 3,000 less than I expected so I'm OK with the dealer giving me a few grand less on trade." The vehicle's worth is what it is based on the market.

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    A lot of used trucks sold by dealers will have have warranties. Some of them are “ factory certified “ , with 100,000 mile warranties. Those are the only used 4x4 trucks I’d buy.

    It doesn’t hurt to look at new trucks. I was able to get my xlt 250, for less than some of the used higher trim level trucks were priced at.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisR View Post
    I am considering replacing my 2002 GMC 1500 4x4 pickup with about 121,000 miles on it.
    I found a nice 2013 GMC 1500 4x4 pickup at a local dealer. It has about 46,500 miles on it.
    I was excited about the truck until I read the car fax report. The truck was serviced in November of 2016 at 35,380 miles. On December 28, 2016 at 35,985 miles, a sensor was replaced.
    On January 20, 2017 at 35,388 miles the engine oil pump was replaced. The report does not say, but my guess is that it was the oil pressure sensor was replaced first. There was almost a month between the sensor & the pump being change. The truck was only driven 3 miles during that time.
    I am concerned about possible engine damage if the truck had low or no oil pressure.

    On April 25, 2017 at 38,045 miles, the report states that axles were replaced. It does not state if they were front or rear axles. Why would axles need to be replaced at 38,000 miles.

    The truck was traded in January of 2018 at 46,586 miles.

    Thoughts?



    u didnt say what you 2002 truck engine is. but if its a ls 4.8/5.3 (even the old iron 4.3's go forever)those engines are about bomb proof as you can get seen many well over 300k miles easy to work on and cheap.. as far as the newer truck those are cylinder deactivation engines and have lots of sensors and often times the dealers will replace the oil pump on those if they are stuck on an issue with that cylinder deactivation system and cant figure it out.

    GM is one of the best at honoring warrenties and they will replace entire assembly's with out hassle. one front axle may have had a tear in the boot so dealer replaced entire axle. ect ect but unless you need all the new fancy electronics i would pass on any new truck.
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