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    Ye old truck needs new batteries.

    My '95 Dodge Cummins needs new batteries. After 9 years of faithful service, the blue top group 31 Optima are starting to slow down. So I'm looking to replace them. I like the long service life and zero problems and corrosion issues they've given me. I'm thinking I can stay with the same ones. The group 31 batteries just barely fit in their respective trays. The terminals are pretty close to the hood. Since I don't use the truck for snow plowing anymore, I'm thinking I could save some bucks and get the smaller group 27 batteries. They are the same size only shorter and lose only about 100 cca's each. The other part of me says it worked for 9 years without issues, why change the formula?

    BTW, the blue top marine group 27 and 31 are electrically the same as the other Optima group 27 and 31 batteries. I've used the extra 5/16"s screw terminals for extra electrical accessories.

    What say you guys? Same size? Smaller? Perhaps you have a recommendation for a different brand? It has to be a sealed AGM or the like to be considered a contender to be bought and installed. I don't use the truck very much and don't want the issues associated with traditional lead-acid batteries.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselshadow View Post
    My '95 Dodge Cummins needs new batteries. After 9 years of faithful service, the blue top group 31 Optima are starting to slow down. So I'm looking to replace them. I like the long service life and zero problems and corrosion issues they've given me. I'm thinking I can stay with the same ones. The group 31 batteries just barely fit in their respective trays. The terminals are pretty close to the hood. Since I don't use the truck for snow plowing anymore, I'm thinking I could save some bucks and get the smaller group 27 batteries. They are the same size only shorter and lose only about 100 cca's each. The other part of me says it worked for 9 years without issues, why change the formula?

    BTW, the blue top marine group 27 and 31 are electrically the same as the other Optima group 27 and 31 batteries. I've used the extra 5/16"s screw terminals for extra electrical accessories.

    What say you guys? Same size? Smaller? Perhaps you have a recommendation for a different brand? It has to be a sealed AGM or the like to be considered a contender to be bought and installed. I don't use the truck very much and don't want the issues associated with traditional lead-acid batteries.
    I've never had batteries on a diesel last 9 years. I would stick with what you had! Just this week I got two new batteries from autozone for free since the last two only lasted two years... After these go I'm going to try the Optimas.

    I also think that fords are harder on batteries than are dodges. Those cummins just crank right up!


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    Yeah, I would take the if it ain't broke....philosophy. Although I guess the batteries are kinda broke, but you know what I mean. Also, they don't make batteries like they used to. And they have gotten $$$$$.


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    As a former Optima fan, just my .02
    I started using them back in the late 90's. I was working for the US Army at Ft Dix and they were in HUMMV's.
    They were great batteries. Upside down, sideways, didn't matter. New technology of time.
    They were made in colorado using virgin lead.
    Fast forward to the last few years..
    They moved to mexico and began using recycled lead.

    I have been into Land Cruisers for years and a member of a cruiser forum. Everyone started having issues with Optimas and voiced the same problems. Batteries only lasting a few years.
    A gentleman a couple years ago that was a former employee of Optima in Co. came into the threads and told what had happened in the company to cut costs and the resulting problems.

    Most everyone made the jump to Odyssey dry cells made by EnerSys.
    Seem to have the old Optima reliability.
    They also make the Sears Diehard Platinum battery which most buy because it is a little cheaper than the Odyssey brand name. But same battery.
    I put two in my cruiser.

    Again, just my .02

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    As Blue stated, the Optimas aren't what they use to be.

    For what it's worth, I got 8.5 years out of the Autozone Duralast batteries in my '97 Powerstorke. I just had to replace them and had always said I would go with Odysseys but having to replace them two days after Christmas I didn't have $600, went back with Duralast for $250.

    While Sears' AGM is made by Odyssey, how much longer will Sears be in business to honor the 4 year replacement warranty?
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    Blue beat me too it but I was in the same boat a month ago cummins needed new batteries. I did a lot of reading and seems since optima went to mexico the quality went down hill. As he states Oddyssey seems to be one of the best but very spendy. The sears diehard platnum is made by Oddyssey and around 250 unless you can find it on sale. I ended up with AGMx2 from batteries plus for the life of me I can't remember who makes them but it is a respected USA manufactuer, call batteries plus and they will tell you. The group 27 which i think i put in is 930 CC amps. Any way ya cut it, its a 500 dollar bill for batteries...but it really spins em over. I figure if it don't start I got enough battery power I can drive it on battery power and the starter.
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    I waited and watched the Sears website.
    Every few months they throw out that 20 or 25% off auto coupon for a week or so.
    That's when i bought mine.
    And another tip is to dig through the battery rack at Sears. They put the newer made ones in the back of the row like at the grocery store.
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    I would say it all depends on how long you decide to keep the truck . If your looking long term yet, I'd stay with what you know lasts. If only a few years then I might go cheaper.
    I also got a little over 9 years on the original batteries in my 2002 Duramax, they didn't completely die but you could tell they were getting weak. I went with AC Delco since they lasted well and the warranty was much better than others. Price was only a couple $ more than Carquest's, Auto Zone, BatterysPlus best battery's and not as good of warranty. Put the best old one in my beater work car and it lasted another 2years starting the V6 Buick.
    My motto stay with what works for you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Red badger View Post
    I would say it all depends on how long you decide to keep the truck . If your looking long term yet, I'd stay with what you know lasts. If only a few years then I might go cheaper.
    I also got a little over 9 years on the original batteries in my 2002 Duramax, they didn't completely die but you could tell they were getting weak. I went with AC Delco since they lasted well and the warranty was much better than others. Price was only a couple $ more than Carquest's, Auto Zone, BatterysPlus best battery's and not as good of warranty. Put the best old one in my beater work car and it lasted another 2years starting the V6 Buick.
    My motto stay with what works for you.
    I gotta say I agree.
    My original AC Delco in my '02 1500HD lasted 11 years!
    Wound up putting a upper crust NAPA Maint free in it though.
    Too much trouble to get a another AC.

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    These are good Odyssey batteries that are manufactured by EnerSys : ODYSSEY battery - Design Advantages
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