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    Winter Tires vs. Summer

    As many of you know I am a proponent of winter tires on my pickup and cars. I'll let the video speak for me in this case....

    An AWD car with summer tires vs. a RWD car with winter tires -

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    When driving for Advance I proved worn out winter tires had better traction ,and stopping distance than a brand new pair of 3 season tires.

    The store manager thought I was nuts till he seen it with his own eyes.

    He was still only able to convince the distract manager to put winter tires on one of the 4 or 5 delivery vehicles.
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    I drive for NAPA and am in Canada,,,,If we didn't put winter tires on our vans, we wouldn't be getting anywhere. My wifes frontwheel drive car with snows is as good as my 4x4 with AT tires, especially on ice.
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    Tire Rack put out a good video recently showing the benefits of winter tires.

    I've had my Blizzak WS70s on for 2 weeks now...

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    I've always been a firm believer in snow tires, no such thing as "all season" IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJR832 View Post
    I've always been a firm believer in snow tires, no such thing as "all season" IMO.
    Me too.

    Have always put winter tires on every vehicle I driven in the winter.

    A few winter ago, Goodyear came out with a All Weather Tire, our daughter has them on her Outback , and I put them on our Sienna AWD last winter. Drove in 8-15" of snow last winter and felt as safe as having true winter tires.

    These are the new tire pattern they came out with last fall when I bought mine. https://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires...e-weatherready




    This is the tire tread my daughter and I have .

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    Quote Originally Posted by etcallhome View Post
    Me too.

    Have always put winter tires on every vehicle I driven in the winter.

    A few winter ago, Goodyear came out with a All Weather Tire, our daughter has them on her Outback , and I put them on our Sienna AWD last winter. Drove in 8-15" of snow last winter and felt as safe as having true winter tires.

    These are the new tire pattern they came out with last fall when I bought mine. https://www.goodyear.com/en-US/tires...e-weatherready




    This is the tire tread my daughter and I have .

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    That's a good looking tire, I will say that with the popularity of AWD vehicles the tire companies have come out with some pretty aggressive "all season" tires. My wife has had two Chevy Equinox AWD's and we only ran Bridgestone Dueler H/T's on them, they have an open shoulder like the tire you linked. Her current vehicle is a Ford Edge and that just felt scary with all seasons on it, she has had true winter tires on that for 3 years now, Hankook somethings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PJR832 View Post
    I've always been a firm believer in snow tires, no such thing as "all season" IMO.
    One problem with just Snow Tires is there only Best for Snow and Mud but not the best on Ice and Rain Slick Surfaces. My problem is dealing with ice and wet roads during the winter. They tend to plow the snow down and leave you with something a true snow tire won't dig into very well and that is where the sipping and lots of smaller treads crossing the tires work better. Stopping fast on these surfaces take longer with Snow Tires. Now on deeper new snow and un/plowed roads the True Snow Tire works great because they self clean and have chunky treads. So for my driving conditions I want All Seasons and my Off Road stuff True Snow Tires. But then that is just me? I really hate sliding on ice trying to stop way more then having a hard time getting going in deeper snow. This is what I run on my 3/4 Ton Dodge and my Chevy 1 ton year round. There All Terrain, Mud Snow and All Season in one. Was not happy with the Cost and wear of the Toyo's these get better traction year round for me. Information on them Cooper Courser MSR LT tires.
    High Traction Tread Design
    The intricate tread pattern balances inter traction and a smooth, quiet ride. The deep lateral and notched circumferential grooves provide excellent evacuation of water and slush from the tread contact patch.

    Patented “Snow Groove” Design Technology
    Provides biting edges for excellent snow and ice traction without reducing element stiffness. The snow groove enhances the retention of snow in the outer circumferential grooves to capitalize on the higher traction characteristics of “snow on snow” versus “snow on rubber”.
    Also available with metal studs for the ultimate in ice traction. For the studded version of this tire click here.

    Available in Blackwall (BW) and Outlined White Letters (OWL) sidewall styles.

    Mastercraft Tires are made by Cooper Tire Co. Click image for larger version. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD4044M View Post
    One problem with just Snow Tires is there only Best for Snow and Mud but not the best on Ice and Rain Slick Surfaces. My problem is dealing with ice and wet roads during the winter. They tend to plow the snow down and leave you with something a true snow tire won't dig into very well and that is where the sipping and lots of smaller treads crossing the tires work better. Stopping fast on these surfaces take longer with Snow Tires. Now on deeper new snow and un/plowed roads the True Snow Tire works great because they self clean and have chunky treads. So for my driving conditions I want All Seasons and my Off Road stuff True Snow Tires. But then that is just me? I really hate sliding on ice trying to stop way more then having a hard time getting going in deeper snow. This is what I run on my 3/4 Ton Dodge and my Chevy 1 ton year round. There All Terrain, Mud Snow and All Season in one. Was not happy with the Cost and wear of the Toyo's these get better traction year round for me. Information on them Cooper Courser MSR LT tires.
    High Traction Tread Design
    The intricate tread pattern balances inter traction and a smooth, quiet ride. The deep lateral and notched circumferential grooves provide excellent evacuation of water and slush from the tread contact patch.

    Patented “Snow Groove” Design Technology
    Provides biting edges for excellent snow and ice traction without reducing element stiffness. The snow groove enhances the retention of snow in the outer circumferential grooves to capitalize on the higher traction characteristics of “snow on snow” versus “snow on rubber”.
    Also available with metal studs for the ultimate in ice traction. For the studded version of this tire click here.

    Available in Blackwall (BW) and Outlined White Letters (OWL) sidewall styles.

    Mastercraft Tires are made by Cooper Tire Co. Click image for larger version. 

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    Since 1989 when I purchased a Ford Ranger 5 sp, I have used studded winter tires. In 1993 I purchased a ford F250 4x4 Diesel 5 sp. I ordered it with agressive all terain tires. Well long story short, one day we ended up with freezing rain. Going very slow, made a right hand 90 degree turn after leaving a bridge and was promptly going down the road sideways pointing at the river. Needless to say, purchased winter steels and agressive studded winters on all 4 corners. Then bought a 2003 F250 4x4 diesel 6 sp, and immediately put winters all around. Had to trade due to divorce, and have had 3 Passats since. First 2 diesels till they bought #2 back, cuz of our wonderful guberment, but all 3 have had studs all around.
    My wifes cars since I got remairied have had studs all around. Will never use anything but. The 93 went through a blizzard in 02 through 3 foot drifts cuz PennDot did not plow on Christmas and I had to go into the plant. Made it there and back, but a half mile from home hit one drift so hard I knocked off the serpentine belt. Thank God it was a diesel! Made it home anyway. Studds are the best!

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    I've never needed an actual snow tire on any of my pickups.
    I just took the crappy factory Goodyear SR-A's off my truck 2 months ago, even though there was still 3/4 tread life left. They were absolutely unsafe in rain of all things.

    I opted for Michelin LTX Defenders. Love these tires. Maybe it's just me, but I've driven in plenty of snow in my life, and I don't have any problems.
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