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    Thinking of getting diesel next time around...thoughts(?)

    The 2004 2500HD/Crew/4x4/8.1/Allison has been a great truck since I ordered from factory. LT with leather, pretty much all the goodies, and now hitting 133k miles. Doesn't burn oil and runs like a top.

    I would drive it every day, but it's 60 miles round trip to work and back, and 10.5 MPG hurts the wallet. I have an Accord to drive daily that knocks down 30 MPG, but it's getting up there...86k to date.

    Kicking around the idea of moving to a Duramax. Truth be told, I really don't need a 3/4 ton 4x4...but I'd rather have it and not need it, as opposed to needing it and not having it...

    Brother just got a 2018 Silverado 1500 CC/4x4/5.3/6speed. He likes it very much, as do I. But I prefer the ride, handling and capability of the HD's vs. the 1/2 tons.

    Who has made the switch from gas to diesel (or vice versa).

    Pros / Cons?

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    Only diesel I’ve ever owned was a 6L ford power stroke... Have never owned a ford or diesel again after that! The power and fuel is much better for towing and even for driving.

    Maintenance costs are much higher. Atleast 3 times what a gas engine is. Here gasoline is .90L where diesel is $1.35L. The premium for the engine is also another $10,000

    All our work trucks now are 2500 Sierra/ Silverado 6.0L gas and I will continue to keep buying them. When the 2019 or 2020 HD models come out I will buy their new 6.6L gas
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    Quote Originally Posted by dombougie View Post
    Only diesel Iíve ever owned was a 6L ford power stroke... Have never owned a ford or diesel again after that! The power and fuel is much better for towing and even for driving.

    Maintenance costs are much higher. Atleast 3 times what a gas engine is. Here gasoline is .90L where diesel is $1.35L. The premium for the engine is also another $10,000

    All our work trucks now are 2500 Sierra/ Silverado 6.0L gas and I will continue to keep buying them. When the 2019 or 2020 HD models come out I will buy their new 6.6L gas
    I agree 100% get the gas! You will never make up the difference you can buy a lot of gas for a 10,000 diesel upgrade and more costly maintenance as for towing that will just about tow anything if it set up.
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    I hear you...but that diesel sound...

    I have been calculating out the numbers, two vehicles vs. one, factoring in added cost for diesel fuel, maintenance, wheel taxes (high in Nebr.), insurance, etc.

    Swapping out Accord and the 8.1 and moving to 1/2 ton 5.3 or even a 6.2 will save me about $900-1k per year. Diesel would save about $400 per year.

    Going with 2500HD with the 6.0 gas would save about $600 per year...but I'm leery of moving from the 8.1/Allison down to the 6.0.

    Of course none of this factors in cost of the vehicle.

    Like I said, I really don't ** need ** a diesel...but would like to try one this time around...

    Good friend has run Dodge diesels for many years...just moved to 3/4 ton Dodge with the 6.4 gas...he regrets it.

    Another buddy had a Duramax for 9 years, pulled trailer for work...moved back to 1500 Silverado 1500/5.3, and regrets it.

    I'm torn...

    It will likely be 18-24 months before I make the move...plenty of time to ponder, change my mind, and save $$$.
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    Well if you can afford it and if it makes you smile go for it. You only live once enjoy.

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    I went from an 03 gmc 1500hd 6.0 liter to an 06 2500hd Duramax. Both crew cabs. I got them Both used and actually paid the same for each at the time of buying. Both loaded. Iím hoping to never go back gas if I can help it. I love my Duramax. The 03 got 12mpg without towing. And wellllll under 12 when towing my 16í work trailer. With slightly larger than stock tires

    The Duramax with 35Ē mud tires gets me 16 average. No less than 12 towing and over 20 cruising around 70. Not sure what Iíd get if I had stock tires. I also have a tune that has my truck at around 460horsepower And over 900lbs torque. Got about 210,000miles on it now.

    Maintenance hasnít been that bad on mine. Think an oil change is a little more than doubled. When I bought my Duramax gas and diesel was about the same. I think diesel is about 70-80 cents more now.

    I do use mine every day for work and pulling trailers though. Not a daily commuter. Well I do use it daily if Iím not working but thatís rare.
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    Personally, I'd keep the 04 until the wheels fall off of it. The best money saved is not buying a new truck, especially if yours is paid off.

    I keep vehicles as long as possible and don't hesitate to put money into them each year. I'd rather my hard earned cash go towards things like new tractors, and gators... but that's just me.

    Other than that, gas all the way. EPA has sucked all the life out of diesels, and really high fuel costs.
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    It may not make the best financial sense but I guaranty it will put a smile on your face when you drive it.
    I drove GMC's for years but the last few trucks have been Fords.
    I'm not sure if you have done much research on the new GM diesel but Gail Banks has some very good video's on youtube and from what I have seen and read GM has done a VERY good job updating this engine.
    I agree with you and for years I have spec'd out trucks as heavy duty as I could buy them so that they didn't squat when I loaded them when I plowed commercially the heavier the truck the better they pushed. I got to the point that the heavy duty ride feels right to me and half tons feel like big soft cars.
    Could I even begin to persuade you to at least test drive a Ford?
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    When I bought my 2011 F250 4 years ago to tow my 31ft gooseneck tandem dually trailer, I went with gas as I did not want spend the extra for a diesel, nor did I want to have the extra cost of mainentance. I have a friend with a GMC diesel and just for an oil change, it is well over $100, whereas it costs me in the $30 range at the dealer for my gasser 6.2L, plus every 5th oil change is free. I am licensed out to 24,000# and have no problem in pulling that much weight. I believe I get pretty much the same mileage and since diesel is 50% higher right now, my fuel costs are considerably lower. I did make the decision to go with a 2011 or later as that was the first year of the 6.2L gasser, up from the 5.4L of the previous years. A big difference. I would not be saying the same nice things about the 5.4L. The 6.8L V10 gasser was available in earlier years, but is is just a 5.4L with 2 cylinders added. It was never noted for good fuel mileage, although power was decent. I don't believe it is as good as the 6.2L, however.

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    If you don't need it you won't be able to justify it by any savings but by all means if you want it get it.

    86k miles on a Honda is not getting on up there if it has been maintained. See them regularly with 250k miles

    You may be surprised how much your current truck is worth, its valued there because it has lots of life left and is quite capable.
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