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    I have a 02 GMC Serria 1500 pickup. It had about 109,000 I bought it in 2010. It currently has about 127,000 miles on it. This is my personal truck, so it does not driven a lot. It is kept in a garage when not being driven. The only things I have done to the truck since I bought it, other than regular service, was new front wheel bearings & rear brakes right after I bought it & new tires a couple of years ago.

    About a month ago the anti lock brakes would sometimes activate when I stopped at a stop light. That kept getting worse to the point that it would loose all braking. Monday I took it to a local auto repair shop. They determined that a front wheel bearing was causing the problem. They replaced the bearing & all was fine. I put about 60 miles on the truck this week when I started noticing a grinding noise when slowing down, that got worse when pushing on the brakes. It felt to me like the grinding was in the front of the truck.

    I took the truck back to the same repair shop. They found that a rear brake pad had failed & it was metal to metal contact on the rotor.

    What are the chances that parts that were installed days apart nine years ago would fail days apart nine years later?
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    Engineers are getting better at failure analysis.
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    What are the chances the shop did that to get you to spend more money?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kbar View Post
    What are the chances the shop did that to get you to spend more money?
    Very low. They would have had to do a lot of work to pull that off. It looks to me like the rivets holding the pad to the plate rusted off.
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    I didn't know GM used disc brakes on the rear of pickups that long ago. My 2012 has drum brakes on the rear. Either way, that's good mileage on brakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRobinson View Post
    I didn't know GM used disc brakes on the rear of pickups that long ago. My 2012 has drum brakes on the rear. Either way, that's good mileage on brakes.
    I bought mine w/99k on it and it currently has 199K on it. I've never replaced the brakes, and I tow quite a bit.
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    Early 2000 GM trucks are known to go through rear brake pads. When I had my 2004 Avalanche, I would do the rears anytime I did the fronts. The pads are a real tight fit in the brackets and do not slide as freely as they should, causing the pads to drag a lot. Even if you put in new slider hardware, you normally need to take a grinder to the ears on the new pads to make sure there is no binding (even with OEM pads). Most shops will not take the time to make the pad fit properly, they will force it in the bracket and it will end up binding and dragging.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisR View Post
    About a month ago the anti lock brakes would sometimes activate when I stopped at a stop light.
    Is that a typo? I always thought it to be anti-stop brakes???
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRobinson View Post
    I didn't know GM used disc brakes on the rear of pickups that long ago. My 2012 has drum brakes on the rear. Either way, that's good mileage on brakes.
    They put rear disc brakes on their 1/2 ton trucks from 1999-2002 and then went back to drums for a period of time from 2003-? I am not sure what they did on their heavy duties, I think they put disc's on all 4 corners starting in 2000. My 2007 HD3500 dually has discs all the way around. I remember reading when they did that and everyone complained. I think this is when GM started hemorrhaging money so they started de-contenting their vehicles until the succumbed to BK. Drums must be cheaper to buy and install than disc brakes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DRobinson View Post
    I didn't know GM used disc brakes on the rear of pickups that long ago. My 2012 has drum brakes on the rear. Either way, that's good mileage on brakes.
    My 2011 1/2 ton has disc brakes on the rear. I'll have to look at my SIL's 2013 next time he's here.
    What trim level do you have? Maybe higher trim levels got disc brakes?
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