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    Another towing question.

    So I知 thinking of getting a new trailer to haul my son痴 cub and wagon to shows. Total weight is about 2600 pounds or so of equipment.



    My truck is rated to two 5700 pounds. And after towing 2500 pounds I think it would do it but not be really happy about it. Fortunately I知 looking at towing things less than 20 miles and on fairly flat ground.
    Move got the 4.2L with a 3.55 rear. Looks like GCVW is 10000 pounds.



    No I知 at the mindset that if I知 going to buy something I want to buy it once and be done. I found this trailer which would do just about all of my towing needs.

    2019 Sure-Trac 7x20 Tube Top Utility Landscape Trailer 9900# GVW * PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPE SERIES * HD GATE UPGRADE | Best Choice Trailers Harrisburg Area



    My question is since the trailer has a GVW of 9900 pounds and my truck is only rated at 5700 pounds as long as I keep it loaded to under 5700 pounds am I ok from a legal standpoint?

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    Quote Originally Posted by J3 Driver View Post
    So I知 thinking of getting a new trailer to haul my son痴 cub and wagon to shows. Total weight is about 2600 pounds or so of equipment.

    My truck is rated to two 5700 pounds. And after towing 2500 pounds I think it would do it but not be really happy about it. Fortunately I知 looking at towing things less than 20 miles and on fairly flat ground.
    Move got the 4.2L with a 3.55 rear. Looks like GCVW is 10000 pounds.

    No I知 at the mindset that if I知 going to buy something I want to buy it once and be done. I found this trailer which would do just about all of my towing needs.


    My question is since the trailer has a GVW of 9900 pounds and my truck is only rated at 5700 pounds as long as I keep it loaded to under 5700 pounds am I ok from a legal standpoint?

    Thanks
    Yes.

    You値l just have to watch your hitch weight - easy enough to do by moving the load a little forward or back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J3 Driver View Post

    My question is since the trailer has a GVW of 9900 pounds and my truck is only rated at 5700 pounds as long as I keep it loaded to under 5700 pounds am I ok from a legal standpoint?
    Sure. You just have to keep in mind that the trailer itself weighs 2530 lbs.

    With your 5700 lbs towing capacity minus the 2530 lbs that the trailer weighs, you are limited to loading 3170 lbs of "stuff" on it when towing with your vehicle. You'd be fine if your 2600 lb number is accurate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J3 Driver View Post
    So I’m thinking of getting a new trailer to haul my son’s cub and wagon to shows. Total weight is about 2600 pounds or so of equipment.



    My truck is rated to two 5700 pounds. And after towing 2500 pounds I think it would do it but not be really happy about it. Fortunately I’m looking at towing things less than 20 miles and on fairly flat ground.
    Move got the 4.2L with a 3.55 rear. Looks like GCVW is 10000 pounds.



    No I’m at the mindset that if I’m going to buy something I want to buy it once and be done. I found this trailer which would do just about all of my towing needs.

    2019 Sure-Trac 7x20 Tube Top Utility Landscape Trailer 9900# GVW * PROFESSIONAL LANDSCAPE SERIES * HD GATE UPGRADE | Best Choice Trailers Harrisburg Area



    My question is since the trailer has a GVW of 9900 pounds and my truck is only rated at 5700 pounds as long as I keep it loaded to under 5700 pounds am I ok from a legal standpoint?

    Thanks


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    I don't think you will have a problem with axle overloading. Now the big question: what is the GVWR of the tow vehicle. You dodged a bullet with the trailer GVWR of less than 10,000#. I suspect your pickup is way less than 10,000#, so you should miss the 26,000# max GCWR that could be a problem. I see no problems except that fully loaded, that 4.2L will struggle. Remember to lock out OD. I towed my 1025R and loader on a 20ft aluminum trailer that weighed 1500# empty with my 93 F150 and 302 engine, but it was a struggle. I now have a 2012 Escape with the 4.0L double overhead cam V6 with a lot more HP. I would not even think of trying to tow that same load with it as it has no low end torque at all. But, wow, does it run out to 6500RPM quick.

    One other thing I might add. That drop down end gate will require more HP to tow as it catches a lot of wind. I had a 5x10 before the 20ft with that end gate and it was hard to tow at highway speeds.

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    One other thing I might add. That drop down end gate will require more HP to tow as it catches a lot of wind. I had a 5x10 before the 20ft with that end gate and it was hard to tow at highway speeds.

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    yelp-i 100% agree the gate is a big sail going down the road. thought that when i first bought my land scrapper trailer back in 02. first run on Interstate I-70 coming home. never had it on a 4 lane road since-myself-loaned it out for a run to Atlanta, Georgia. oh.
    well i have had it for a spell on a 4 lane road towed gator home with on one and had been back now a couple of times too. at least the gator sat high enough i didn't seem to notice no hold back with it on.

    i love the gate oh for easy loading--no guessing as to where to place the ramps but i will say the car hauler we bought last yr--does pull way easier up and down the road-no sail on itas the ramps are tucked underneath it. better gas mileage with it for sure.

    i want a tilt deck for my next trailer-i just think that would be the cats --- for ease of loading and unloading-IMOBUT THEY ARE MORE
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    On my landscape trailer with the ramp, I had a 2 piece strap that allowed me to store it upright, and to lower it so that it is practically horizontal. Cuts the sail effect considerably, but adds about 4 feet to the length, but not all that significant.

    I purchased a 22 foot tilt deck trailer, and have used it to move the 955. What a difference. The trailer has 14K rating at the tandem. Doesn't even sweat! But you are right, it was $5,000 to buy, and it is about 8 feet longer than the landscape trailer.

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    So you guys would recommend something like this over a tilt gate trailer.

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    Lighter than the landscape trailer too which is a plus.


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    That is a nice looking trailer.

    Are you planning on taking the Cub and the Wagon or just the Cub?

    The tilt deck's I've used (only a few) went down with weight so as the tractor goes on, the deck goes down. That might make loading the wagon a little more interesting.

    The other factor is length and getting the load centered for tongue weight. Since you said you are staying close, you could always make two trips.

    It hasn't been mentioned but are you set up for trailer brakes?
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    I would agree to watch your hitch weight as that is where you will run into issues. Also do you have a brake controller? I would imagine most these trailers are going to be set up with electric brakes. Just a FYI to consider that in your purchase if you don't already have it. In addition to that you will probably need a WD hitch. Most trucks have a 5000# trailer and 500# hitch max rating unless you have a Class IV external WD hitch. Though some newer ones come with a Class IV from the factory. More common in 3/4 ton and up though unless you have a Max Towing type package on a 1/2 ton. With the weight restrictions you are talking about I assume you have a regular 1/2 ton.

    I agree that a tilting bed would be easier but if loading the tractor and trailer that would be interesting. The landscape style would be better for that. My little aluminum trailer has a ramp that sticks up. Sure it creates more drag but you said you are not going more than 20 miles or so. It will eat into fuel economy but you should be fine as long as you maintain that 10-15% tongue weight.
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    I would recommend the tilt deck or any equipment/car trailer over the utility trailer, as the first time you try to load something from the side those trailer sides will be in the way.

    Tilt deck or ramps is personal choice, I don't mind ramps, but I'm young (dumb) enough to muscle them around yet.
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