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    How Tight is too Tight?

    Here is a two-part article written about chains, binders and straps and how not to use them.
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    Good stuff Kenny. I think that qualifies as "work". I can legitimately study this during work hours.
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    Yes Don, please do. The author Fritz is well respected in the towing industry and VP at BA Products, a great company


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    I see the advantage of ratchet style chain binders, easy to get real tight without a cheater and still be safe.

    The lever style can be too loose; try and take up one more chain link and they will be too tight.

    I have never tried or considered any kind of cheater on ratchet straps. Cheap ones you can damage by hand.
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    Now, as you drive down the interstate, realize that every tractor trailer that you see with a chained down load.....


    USED A CHEATER BAR!

    Drive safe.
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    If you can get it to cam over with a 6' cheater, it's not too tight.

    Another option, if you have a portable compressor (and your load has tires), is to air down the tires and then chain it down, then air the tires back up to add more tension.

    Every private contractor I've talked to in recent memory has gotten rid of the cam style binders and gone to ratchets. Much easier to get on/off without whacking knuckles or getting poled in the face with your cheater pipe.
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    Kenny:

    How about adding those articles to the GTT Tech Library?
    I have more ideas than ambition.


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    Quote Originally Posted by mjncad View Post
    Kenny:

    How about adding those articles to the GTT Tech Library?
    I did yesterday Matt, take a looksee...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rtgt View Post
    Now, as you drive down the interstate, realize that every tractor trailer that you see with a chained down load.....


    USED A CHEATER BAR!

    Drive safe.
    Yes...what surprised me was he was able to almost exceed the WLL by hand.
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    Some pretty good reading.

    It seems that the straps are really easy to overload. Makes me wonder about the strap winches that are on the side of a flatbed and the tool for tightening them is a 3 foot bar. I've seen some pretty big guys put all their body weight into tying down a load of lumber or pipe.

    I've got several of the lever style binders however recently I bought a ratchet style binder. I found one that was made in the USA and thought it was an antique and for the price I couldn't pass it up! I still use the old style on the front of the tractor and the ratchet on the rear. I get the front snug and I don't use a cheater bar. I know what kinda pull down you can get and I don't want the stress on my frame or frontend. I put the tractor in neutral and then use the ratchet on the rear chain to draw everything up.

    I've been thinking of getting a couple of the web style ratchets that have a short piece of chain on the end for the front of the tractor. I only need the chain on one end where it connects to the tractor. Figured this would be pretty efficient and I wouldn't need to mess with the binders.
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