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    F150 Diesel

    Seen on Motor Trend Ford is testing what is believed to be a 3L V-6 diesel (Land Rover) in the F150 with what they believe to be a mid-summer launch. New transmission as well. Hp and Tq were rumored to by 2xx HP and 4xx torque.

    We'll have to wait and see if this information is true.

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    I just hope this will not be screwed up like the 6.0, 6.4 and 6.7L have been. To bad, as Ford used to be a GREAT truck. 6.0l would have been great, except for the poor sealing head gaskets(4 bolt heads vs 6 bolt heads in the 7.3),and lack of appropriate cooling on cyl, 7 & 8. Of course the side loading of the original injectors was an issue too. Loved my 2003, but divorce got it before I had any issues. The 6.0 is a great engine with minor issues that turn major quickly. All related to EGTs. It can be made bulletproof, which Ford should have done in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John Deere 1025R TLB View Post
    I just hope this will not be screwed up like the 6.0, 6.4 and 6.7L have been. To bad, as Ford used to be a GREAT truck. 6.0l would have been great, except for the poor sealing head gaskets(4 bolt heads vs 6 bolt heads in the 7.3),and lack of appropriate cooling on cyl, 7 & 8. Of course the side loading of the original injectors was an issue too. Loved my 2003, but divorce got it before I had any issues. The 6.0 is a great engine with minor issues that turn major quickly. All related to EGTs. It can be made bulletproof, which Ford should have done in the first place.
    Ford should have had a recall on all 6.0s, and for any 6.0s that was bulletproofed they should have re-embursed the owner.. The only brand new vehicle I owned was a 05 F350 with the 6.oh no.. I had no plans on ever getting rid of it, but with all the 6.0 issues on the Powerstroke sites, it was time to get rid of my ticking time bomb.. A nice V10 showed up on local lot and I jumped on it..

    Now, for the diesel engines in the half tons..... I just think its a waist of $$$ All the money you spend on the diesel engine will pay for a lot of gas. Then figure in the maintance costs and the gassers will come out on top. Now if your pulling a RV from state to state on a regular basis, then yes diesel is the way to go, and that will be in a 3/4 or 1 ton truck..

    I know a guy with a 1/2 ton Dodge, very nice truck, BUT I did see on a site that a oil change is like $300? Maybe that includes a fuel filter too, Im not sure, but $300 for oil change.... No thanks..
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEWT View Post
    Ford should have had a recall on all 6.0s, and for any 6.0s that was bulletproofed they should have re-embursed the owner.. The only brand new vehicle I owned was a 05 F350 with the 6.oh no.. I had no plans on ever getting rid of it, but with all the 6.0 issues on the Powerstroke sites, it was time to get rid of my ticking time bomb.. A nice V10 showed up on local lot and I jumped on it..

    Now, for the diesel engines in the half tons..... I just think its a waist of $$$ All the money you spend on the diesel engine will pay for a lot of gas. Then figure in the maintance costs and the gassers will come out on top. Now if your pulling a RV from state to state on a regular basis, then yes diesel is the way to go, and that will be in a 3/4 or 1 ton truck..

    I know a guy with a 1/2 ton Dodge, very nice truck, BUT I did see on a site that a oil change is like $300? Maybe that includes a fuel filter too, Im not sure, but $300 for oil change.... No thanks..
    If someone is paying $300 for an oil change they are over paying by about $250

    I love diesels but with more and more crap being put on them, I agree, they are to the point of not being worth the money....less one is willing to delete the EGR and DPF
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    Quote Originally Posted by psrumors View Post
    If someone is paying $300 for an oil change they are over paying by about $250

    I love diesels but with more and more crap being put on them, I agree, they are to the point of not being worth the money....less one is willing to delete the EGR and DPF
    With 4 gallons of oil at $13-14 a gallon and $10 for a filter, I can't change the oil in my 7.3 for $50 doing the labor myself. I think the fuel filters for a 6.0 were over $100 way back when. It's no surprise that newer, more complex diesels are getting much more expensive to maintain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 56FordGuy View Post
    With 4 gallons of oil at $13-14 a gallon and $10 for a filter, I can't change the oil in my 7.3 for $50 doing the labor myself. I think the fuel filters for a 6.0 were over $100 way back when. It's no surprise that newer, more complex diesels are getting much more expensive to maintain.
    I was being slightly disingenuous but $300 is still way overpriced
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEWT View Post
    Ford should have had a recall on all 6.0s, and for any 6.0s that was bulletproofed they should have re-embursed the owner.. The only brand new vehicle I owned was a 05 F350 with the 6.oh no.. I had no plans on ever getting rid of it, but with all the 6.0 issues on the Powerstroke sites, it was time to get rid of my ticking time bomb.. A nice V10 showed up on local lot and I jumped on it..

    Now, for the diesel engines in the half tons..... I just think its a waist of $$$ All the money you spend on the diesel engine will pay for a lot of gas. Then figure in the maintance costs and the gassers will come out on top. Now if your pulling a RV from state to state on a regular basis, then yes diesel is the way to go, and that will be in a 3/4 or 1 ton truck..

    I know a guy with a 1/2 ton Dodge, very nice truck, BUT I did see on a site that a oil change is like $300? Maybe that includes a fuel filter too, Im not sure, but $300 for oil change.... No thanks..

    They may be requiring full synthetic oil in these new diesels. That is the major problem with these. Oil breaks down very quickly in engines using the oil as hydraulic fluid. In addition to breakdown of the oil you have all of the contaminates. Bypass filtration and full synthetics helps all of this but not entirely.


    For a high quality synthetic you will pay about 6 to 10 per quart so that would be 120 bucks average for the oil alone. Filters are expensive. So worst case scenario you would be $175 to 200 to do it yourself. If you add good additives there is another 50-60 bucks. So it is not completely out or reach.


    Filtration for fuel as well as adding additives for lubricity are needed for common rail HPFP units.


    The 6.0 when built the right way was truly a bulletproof engine. Was where they should have stopped, if the gov't had not been so ridiculous.


    The 6.7 with their ceramic bearings in the turbo was some idiot engineers way of making things better. That worked out sooo well. If you take off all the crap, it probably would live a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NEWT View Post
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    I know a guy with a 1/2 ton Dodge, very nice truck, BUT I did see on a site that a oil change is like $300? Maybe that includes a fuel filter too, Im not sure, but $300 for oil change.... No thanks..
    I see you later said $200 but either way it doesn't shock me if that is at the dealer as part of a scheduled maintenance. I doubt it is just an oil change.

    For instance on my Jetta TDI, oil changes are every 10K miles. I do it myself for about $60 at the dealer it is going to run at least $100. 20K is going to add fuel filter and it is about $100 for me and around $300 at the dealer. Even more if it is a 40K service and you need a transmission fluid change on the DSG cars. If it is just oil, it is a lot but I would imagine it is more to the service than that.
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