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    Nissan Titan XD: Cummins diesel power

    wow this should be an interesting truck

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    Been out since 2014, '15 model year 2014 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel vs 2015 Nissan Titan Diesel - CarDebater

    Toyota is on board with the same Cummins V8 in their Tundra for the '17 model year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by balrog006 View Post
    Been out since 2014, '15 model year 2014 Ram 1500 EcoDiesel vs 2015 Nissan Titan Diesel - CarDebater

    Toyota is on board with the same Cummins V8 in their Tundra for the '17 model year.
    i just found out 2 days ago

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    If one could only predict what fuel prices and availability would be in the future.....

    I love my diesels - as a matter of fact the only gasoline engine I have in my vehicles and equipment is my 1/2 ton pickup. It just doesn't make sense to me to have a diesel in a 1/2 ton pickup especially now that diesel costs more than gasoline.

    Don't get me wrong- I would love to have one. But to pay a premium like that (just guessing at $3k?) for the diesel option plus the higher cost of fuel just doesn't justify itself for me.
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    I saw one the other day while dropping a coworker off at a Nissan dealer, the fully dressed Platinum Edition was stickered at $61,800
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    Quote Originally Posted by balrog006 View Post
    Toyota is on board with the same Cummins V8 in their Tundra for the '17 model year.
    I'll believe that when I see it. There have been rumors of a Tundra Diesel going back to 2006 and every time they are supposedly "close", it gets kicked down the road another 2 or 3 years.

    I took my Tundra in to the dealer yesterday for 2 software updates. While I was there I wandered the lot and noticed they have almost NO Tundras or Tacomas. (and this is a BIG lot with hundreds of cars) When I went back inside I asked the sales guys about it and was told they can't keep them in stock. With gas prices dropping they are selling like crazy. Was asked if I wanted to trade mine in because they can't get ahold of enough late model used Tundras to sell. (btw, up here the dealers are offering 90% of original retail as trade-in value for 2012-2014 Tundras)

    I mentioned that the only way I was trading mine in was if I was getting a Diesel Tundra in return. All the sale guys just shook their heads. Not happening.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JimR View Post
    I'll believe that when I see it. There have been rumors of a Tundra Diesel going back to 2006 and every time they are supposedly "close", it gets kicked down the road another 2 or 3 years.

    I took my Tundra in to the dealer yesterday for 2 software updates. While I was there I wandered the lot and noticed they have almost NO Tundras or Tacomas. (and this is a BIG lot with hundreds of cars) When I went back inside I asked the sales guys about it and was told they can't keep them in stock. With gas prices dropping they are selling like crazy. Was asked if I wanted to trade mine in because they can't get ahold of enough late model used Tundras to sell. (btw, up here the dealers are offering 90% of original retail as trade-in value for 2012-2014 Tundras)

    I mentioned that the only way I was trading mine in was if I was getting a Diesel Tundra in return. All the sale guys just shook their heads. Not happening.

    It's happening, it's just a question of when. Toyota and Honda cannot and will not let a market segment go unopposed. I know that both have delayed US Diesels since the mid to late 2000's mostly in response to changing emissions requirements and their unwillingness to half-a$$ a market entry and the tech behind it.

    They use diesels in all other markets major and minor across the globe except for the US, partly due to the emissions requirements and the US perceptions on dirty, noisy, smelly diesels. Neither one will bring anything to market unless it's well proven, a good performer and tested thoroughly.

    For myself I can't wait until Honda starts putting diesels into their vehicles. They have worked out the exhaust emissions issue without using urea to treat it-I'll me waiting in line for one in one of their models.
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    Quote Originally Posted by balrog006 View Post
    It's happening, it's just a question of when. Toyota and Honda cannot and will not let a market segment go unopposed. I know that both have delayed US Diesels since the mid to late 2000's mostly in response to changing emissions requirements and their unwillingness to half-a$$ a market entry and the tech behind it.

    They use diesels in all other markets major and minor across the globe except for the US, partly due to the emissions requirements and the US perceptions on dirty, noisy, smelly diesels. Neither one will bring anything to market unless it's well proven, a good performer and tested thoroughly.

    For myself I can't wait until Honda starts putting diesels into their vehicles. They have worked out the exhaust emissions issue without using urea to treat it-I'll me waiting in line for one in one of their models.
    I'd love to see it! I like my Tundra with the singular exception of the gas mileage - especially when towing. A diesel would be the absolute bomb. The previously proposed Tundra HD Diesel (a 3/4 ton dually) would be even better.



    The Tundra Diesel rumor timeline:

    August, 2006 – At a dealer meeting in San Antonio, Toyota tells dealers that the next-generation Tundra will be offered in a 3/4 ton (HD) version. Toyota also tells dealers to expect a diesel version of the truck.

    September, 2007 – Toyota VP Kazuo Okamoto indicates that the Tundra will be the first US vehicle Toyota offers to receive a diesel engine.

    October, 2007 – Toyota debuts a dually version of the Tundra (shown below) with a 8.1L HINO diesel at SEMA. Rumors of both a Heavy Duty (HD) diesel Tundra and a light duty diesel Tundra continue.

    December, 2007 – Based on comments from Toyota execs, the amount of evidence, and comments from sources, we predict that Toyota will release a light-duty diesel in 2009.

    January, 2008 – Jim Lentz, at the time President of Sales for Toyota USA, announces that Toyota will not build a hybrid Tundra. Instead, they will focus on building an efficient diesel version of the Tundra. This further confirms the likelihood of a light duty diesel Tundra.

    May, 2008 – Edmunds.com reports that Toyota will release the light-duty diesel Tundra in 2009 as a 2010 model, echoing our earlier prediction. Edmunds.com further reports the diesel will be an Americanized version of Toyota’s 4.5L diesel currently in use in Australia.

    July, 2008 – Facing slumping sales, Toyota consolidates all Tundra production in San Antonio. As a result, we predict the HD Tundra is tabled indefinitely.

    September, 2008 – Toyota indefinitely delays the light duty 4.5L Tundra diesel.

    November, 2008 – Despite the fact that Toyota does not have any plans to produce an HD Tundra at any point in the immediate future, Toyota continues to show off the dually Tundra concept truck.

    December, 2008 – A general collapse of the North American automotive market triggers a massive decline in pickup truck sales. Ford, GM, Ram, and Toyota all back off of plans to bring out new features, etc., until truck market recovers.

    August, 2009 – Indian automaker Mahindra promises to begin selling a mid-sized pickup with a diesel engine, and industry momentum seems to build towards light-duty diesel trucks.

    September, 2009 – At Texas State Fair, Toyota executives confirm that a diesel version of the Tundra is at least 3 years away.

    July, 2010 – While giving an interview to the Wall Street Journal, a Toyota executive confirms that the 2014 Tundra is under development. However, there is no mention of a diesel powertrain.

    July 2011 – In an interview with Automotive News, a senior Toyota executive explains that Toyota has difficulty investing in the Tundra until sales volumes meet the initial expectation set when Toyota redesigned the Tundra in 2007.

    August 2011 – Rumors of future products from Ford, GM, Ram, and Toyota begin to fly. However, sources continue to tell TundraHeadquarters that there are no plans for diesel Tundra.

    February 2012 – As news continues to pour in on the upcoming 2014 Tundra, Toyota sources offer no news of diesel Tundra.

    September 2013 – An Edmunds.com reporter got a Toyota executive to say that they are looking at a Cummins diesel engine. This follows news that Nissan will offer one in a new Titan. While the buzz has grown, there is nothing to suggest this will actually happen.

    November 2014: Ward’s Auto, AutoGuide, and Car&Driver all reported that the 2016 Tundra will be getting a 5.0L Cummins diesel.



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    Unless the DPF and EGR can be deleted I will not be buying a new diesel anything. These device add entirely too much complexity to the diesel engines and are npt good for the engine
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