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    Hey there wise GTT friends. I have an upcoming camping trip and would welcome input from anyone familiar with the northeast towing routes.

    Here is my challenge:
    I am towing my 13k# fifth wheel from Dayton, MD to Bourne, MA

    I am traveling in both directions on Saturdays. I know that there are tunnels in NY that will not allow my propane bottles (only two 30# bottles, but hard to convince a toll booth operator that I don't have them!). I also don't prefer to spend $100 each way in tolls, but am open to paying tolls if it is the best route. I don't mind going a few extra miles for a much more pleasant route. I generally prefer highway as stop and go traffic is annoying with the camper. I am also 13'1" tall and have had a few issues where nav programs don't seem to consider height when they route me. Thankfully, I have never gotten in trouble with this, but it is another point of data.

    With all of that said, going straight up 95 is a non-starter. I am looking at maybe 83 to 81 to 78 to 287 to 80. That would take me across the George Washington. Does anyone have any input about pulling a trailer across there? Then once I am across that bridge, do I go straight to 95 and continue from there or bypass more of 95?

    I am open to suggestions. I did a similar trip 8 years ago pulling a smaller trailer. I honestly don't remember what route I took but I really appreciated avoiding NYC and NJ. That is for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ljnelson109 View Post
    Hey there wise GTT friends. I have an upcoming camping trip and would welcome input from anyone familiar with the northeast towing routes.

    Here is my challenge:
    I am towing my 13k# fifth wheel from Dayton, MD to Bourne, MA

    I am traveling in both directions on Saturdays. I know that there are tunnels in NY that will not allow my propane bottles (only two 30# bottles, but hard to convince a toll booth operator that I don't have them!). I also don't prefer to spend $100 each way in tolls, but am open to paying tolls if it is the best route. I don't mind going a few extra miles for a much more pleasant route. I generally prefer highway as stop and go traffic is annoying with the camper. I am also 13'1" tall and have had a few issues where nav programs don't seem to consider height when they route me. Thankfully, I have never gotten in trouble with this, but it is another point of data.

    With all of that said, going straight up 95 is a non-starter. I am looking at maybe 83 to 81 to 78 to 287 to 80. That would take me across the George Washington. Does anyone have any input about pulling a trailer across there? Then once I am across that bridge, do I go straight to 95 and continue from there or bypass more of 95?

    I am open to suggestions. I did a similar trip 8 years ago pulling a smaller trailer. I honestly don't remember what route I took but I really appreciated avoiding NYC and NJ. That is for sure.

    Any input is appreciated.....

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    How about looking at 83 to 81 to 84 to 90 / Mass Turnpike to 495 to 25? You're avoiding 95 & the GW Bridge altogether. You've got a toll in Beacon, NY and then a toll on 90 / Mass Turnpike. Less traffic and no tunnels.
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    Here is the route I generally take to SW MA. I avoid 95 AT ALL COSTS

    Not the fastest, but you generally stay moving. The part through the Delaware Gap ( route 209) and Port Jervis is a bit slow, but relaxing. Unsure if this is RV friendly, but I think it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superglidesport View Post
    How about looking at 83 to 81 to 84 to 90 / Mass Turnpike to 495 to 25? You're avoiding 95 & the GW Bridge altogether. You've got a toll in Beacon, NY and then a toll on 90 / Mass Turnpike. Less traffic, less tolls and no tunnels.
    I only know the lower end (from Pa to Mass) but your route is perfect as that is the way I always went with my big truck.
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    I wanted to amend my above post -

    I had originally said the same as superglidesport - 81N to 84E to 90 but there is actually a better way. Driving on 84 in Connecticut can be a nightmare especially if you hit it during rush hour plus you are pulling a sizable trailer.

    While this will add a few extra miles this is how I went when I wanted a stress free trip from PA to Springfield Ma.

    81N to I80 in Penna. Then take 80E to 380N near Mt Pocono. Then at Scranton take 84E. This eliminates 81 going through the Scranton - Wilkes Barre area which is super busy.

    The 84 east from Scranton Pa to 87N at Newberg NY. Take 87N to 90E just before Albany. Not only does this make you avoid Connecticut altogether you cross the Hudson river without a toll (but do pay a toll to travel on 90).

    Then at Springfield Ma you can get 91N.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coaltrain View Post
    I wanted to amend my above post -

    I had originally said the same as superglidesport - 81N to 84E to 90 but there is actually a better way. Driving on 84 in Connecticut can be a nightmare especially if you hit it during rush hour plus you are pulling a sizable trailer.

    While this will add a few extra miles this is how I went when I wanted a stress free trip from PA to Springfield Ma.

    81N to I80 in Penna. Then take 80E to 380N near Mt Pocono. Then at Scranton take 84E. This eliminates 81 going through the Scranton - Wilkes Barre area which is super busy.

    The 84 east from Scranton Pa to 87N at Newberg NY. Take 87N to 90E just before Albany. Not only does this make you avoid Connecticut altogether you cross the Hudson river without a toll (but do pay a toll to travel on 90).

    Then at Springfield Ma you can get 91N.
    Stan, that's the loooong way around but I agree it does avoid Connecticut and all the Prius's driving 55 in the left lane. That being said once he get's to Springfield he wants to continue East on 90 / Mass Pike to 495 South. 91N will take him to Vermont. Bourne, MA is just West of the Cape Cod Canal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superglidesport View Post
    Stan, that's the loooong way around but I agree it does avoid Connecticut and all the Prius's driving 55 in the left lane. That being said once he get's to Springfield he wants to continue East on 90 / Mass Pike to 495 South. 91N will take him to Vermont. Bourne, MA is just West of the Cape Cod Canal.
    Yes - longer but stress free! The worst part of my trip was 84 through eastern NY and Connecticut. Once a week I would treat myself to the easy way. Came out exactly 30 minutes longer (doing the speed limit).

    Thanks for adding the route from Springfield onward. Don't know anything about that since Springfield was my terminus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superglidesport View Post
    Stan, that's the loooong way around but I agree it does avoid Connecticut and all the Prius's driving 55 in the left lane. That being said once he get's to Springfield he wants to continue East on 90 / Mass Pike to 495 South. 91N will take him to Vermont. Bourne, MA is just West of the Cape Cod Canal.
    Coletrain with the above Suoerglide correction is the least stressful way to go. I can give you shorter and faster as I travel from Hunting Town MD to the Springfield MA area a lot. However I suggest you take the way recommended. The drive will be much less stressful and not much longer. With a fifth wheeler it's the way I would go.

    Alternate to the above would be to come up the NJ Garden State to 287 E. go over the Tappan Zee bridge. hook up with 684 North to 84 E. Continue on 84 until you connect to Mass 90 E (toll road) in Sturbridge. It's faster and not to bad a drive providing you don't do it during rush hour. The hardest part of the drive is in Hartford CT.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Deere Ol Man View Post
    Coletrain with the above Suoerglide correction is the least stressful way to go. I can give you shorter and faster as I travel from Hunting Town MD to the Springfield MA area a lot. However I suggest you take the way recommended. The drive will be much less stressful and not much longer. With a fifth wheeler it's the way I would go.

    Alternate to the above would be to come up the NJ Garden State to 287 E. go over the Tappan Zee bridge. hook up with 684 North to 84 E. Continue on 84 until you connect to Mass 90 E (toll road) in Sturbridge. It's faster and not to bad a drive providing you don't do it during rush hour. The hardest part of the drive is in Hartford CT.
    Are you talking about the Garden State Parkway? I'm not sure but I think they allow passenger cars only - at least in NY that is the way it is. Plus low overpasses on the one in NY.

    The OP is pulling a 13k# 5th wheel with a height of 13'1".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deere Ol Man View Post
    Alternate to the above would be to come up the NJ Garden State to 287 E. go over the Tappan Zee bridge. hook up with 684 North to 84 E. Continue on 84 until you connect to Mass 90 E (toll road) in Sturbridge. It's faster and not to bad a drive providing you don't do it during rush hour. The hardest part of the drive is in Hartford CT.

    ^^^^ This is the route I usually take.

    You can't drive Rt. 15 (Merritt Parkway/Wilbur cross Parkway) in CT with an RV or trailer so that path is closed to you. So you're kinda stuck with either I-95 or I-84 unless you want to go well out of your way and take the Taconic Parkway all the way up to Albany, NY and then pick up I-90 there.

    I know you said you wanted to stay on the Interstate as much as possible but taking I-84 all the way up to the MA Turnpike is a bit out of your way. If you take I-84 up to Hartford you can jump off on 384 and then take CT-6 (which becomes RI-6) straight into Providence RI. It's a pretty straight shot but a little hilly in places. Once you're in Providence you can jump onto I-95 for a few miles, pick up I-495 south and take that all the way to Bourne.
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