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    Truck bed weight for winter traction

    Ok, not nearly as exciting as the last thread I started.....
    It's my first winter with a truck and I want to put some weight in the bed. After seeing 56fordguy's truck ballast, it got me thinking. I have a 6.5' box on a half ton Silverado and it is 4WD. I plan to use tube sand. How many tubes and where should they be placed (over the rear axle, any over the wheel wells)? Unlike 56fordguy, I won't be plowing. Thanks!
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    I put weight over the rear axle when I need it.
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    I'd go over the rear axle if you're not trying to offset weight in the front like a plow. If you go ahead of the rear axle you'll be adding weight to the front tires, that would help in 4wd but won't offer much extra assistance if you're in two wheel drive.
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    I buy 450 - 500 lbs of water softener salt and place it over the rear axle. Over the winter as I need to fill the water softener I just rob out of the truck and pick up more as I need it. This also has worked when I had a very icy situation as I do break open a bag and spread some on the road surface to get better traction if I'm getting stuck.
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    First go to Tractor Supply and buy a heavy duty stall mat, weighs about 100 lbs, will make a great bed liner, and for much less than a fitted one, like $36.00....spreads the weight around....I have one in the ram, works great and settles the back end down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdmars View Post
    First go to Tractor Supply and buy a heavy duty stall mat, weighs about 100 lbs, will make a great bed liner, and for much less than a fitted one, like $36.00....spreads the weight around....I have one in the ram, works great and settles the back end down.
    It didn't even occur to me, I already have one of them in there for a bed liner. Yes that is good for some weight too.

    My dad, who has lived in the south for upwards of 20 years, says to put (2) 60lb tubes in the truck bed. That doesn't seem like enough to me. I do like the water softener salt idea though....
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    I've never put anything in my bed after a lifetime with 4WD pickups - until last year.....

    I always figured that was the reason I had 4WD so I didn't have to do anything else. But last winter I needed to add some weight to get out of my driveway when my 4WD went out.

    There are a couple schools of thought here in my opinion. Firstly - I have met some people who for some reason are reluctant to turn that little knob or pull that lever when on the road. For me - if it is even a little slushy I am in 4WD.

    Another way to look at it - why carry extra weight around which will give a little hit to the fuel mileage.

    But having some weight will probably let you drive in a lot of conditions without 4WD - but I paid the money so I could drive in 4WD.

    With all that said, I did throw my 3 tunes of anti-skid (from Tractor Supply last year) in the bed for the winter. That only equals 210# so it won't make any difference at all for traction. But over the years I've found that a little anti-skid spread around where someone (or myself) might be stuck makes a big difference.
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    I put 14 16" concrete blocks in the back of old yeller ('78 Ford F250 plow truck). I was told the 16" blocks weigh 55lbs each so that makes 770lbs. I never bothered to weigh them
    I run two rows of 7 from the front. I run a 2x6 on edge down each side. Before I start the block rows I lag bolt a 2x4 across the front of the box into the two upright 2x6s.
    Then two rows of 7 blocks, then another 2x4 lag bolted across the upright 2x6s at the rear of the block rows.
    This frames in the blocks. The 2x6s run the full length of the box. As long as the tailgate is shut they do not move. I doubt they would slide back with the tailgate open, but I have an old school drop in bed liner that is slippery. I am NOT trying to offset the weight of the snowplow, just get more weight over the rear axle.

    This truck is all ready a gas hog, it has 4.10 gears, no overdrive. I NEVER got over 9 mpg in it's entire life. When the roads are NOT dry I just leave it 4x4. Probably get 5 or 6 mpg. In the winter all it does is push snow

    I should also say the truck came with the heaviest GVW and factory overload springs
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    Put it behind the rear axle for the biggest benefit. No matter what you need to secure the load one way or another. Boss snow plow makes a ballast restaurateur that holds anything you use from flying front. I believe that it needs to be screwed to your trucks bed.

    Years ago (working as an auto technician) I had a problem with something similar. A new 2 wheel drive Dakota truck came in for a rear wheel antilock warning light being on. This was back before all wheel antilock brakes became standard equipment. The government mandated all pickups must have rear wheel abs. Well once you turn the truck off the trouble code gets erased. You need to have the warning light on so you can check the code before shutting it down. My normal road test was not enough to get the light to come on. By stomping the brakes it would cause the system to activate hopefully setting the code. After nailing the brakes I heard a bang but couldn't find a reason for it. A couple days later dude is back at the shop to complain. Apparently he put tubes of sand into the back of the bed with nothing to secure them. The noise I heard was the front of the bed separating from the floor. Forgot to mention that the bed had a soft tarp cover otherwise I would have noticed the load.

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    When you get 2' of snow (and you will) wet it down and let it freeze.
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