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    5000E Series loss of power and smoking?

    Just a reminder or maybe a lesson to new owners. If your tractor goes into loss of power, stumbling, and smoking mode, you will want to perform a couple maintenance tasks to get them running correctly again. First, change the fuel filter on the right hand side of the motor. This is sometimes called the secondary fuel filter. Why you may ask? Well, there is a strainer in the fuel tank. This is often over looked. I have read and seen where some who experience this symptom change the secondary and everything seems to work fine for a while then the problem returns. I use "on road diesel" as I pump my stock into my trucks also. Don't make the mistake of thinking if you use "on road" it won't gum up.

    I recently ran into this issue with mine. Got so bad it wouldn't even start. I pulled the strainer out of the tank and it was completely plugged. I drained the tank and with a very bright flashlight I inspected inside the tank. I had a garden growing in the bottom. lol Upon further inspection I was finding a ton of rust bits in there also. Yep, you guessed it. The little chain they put on the fuel cap rusts away in about a year and all that crap drops right into your tank. I managed to rig up a swab on the end of a metal rod and wipe the inside out. I then took an extendo magnet and got the rest of the rust bits out. Get both pieces of that old rusty chain out of there and replace with a heave cord of some type.

    This is after only 450 hours of use but my tractor is over 4 years old (yes, I have other tractors). I have used the diesel additive and my storage tank has a Napa fuel filter on it.

    So, just a heads up. If you plan to use it and can't afford the down time. Try this routine maintenance and save some aggravation.
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    Do you think it was humidity that rusted the chain? Or the fuel? My manual states to keep the tank, full, but I don't always have fuel on hand to do that.
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    Thank you for the reminder. I have a 2015 5075e and I have not been able to figure out how to drain my sediment bowl? The manual states "Loosen plug (B) and retighten as soon as sediment and water have been bled off". For the life of me I can't figure out how to loosen the plug.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zebrafive View Post
    Do you think it was humidity that rusted the chain? Or the fuel? My manual states to keep the tank, full, but I don't always have fuel on hand to do that.
    I'm sure it is the humidity. Yeah, can't always keep them full for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamonSmathers View Post
    Thank you for the reminder. I have a 2015 5075e and I have not been able to figure out how to drain my sediment bowl? The manual states "Loosen plug (B) and retighten as soon as sediment and water have been bled off". For the life of me I can't figure out how to loosen the plug.
    It unscrews counter clockwise. Sometimes I can do it by hand but most times it takes pliers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by purplewg View Post
    It unscrews counter clockwise. Sometimes I can do it by hand but most times it takes pliers.
    Thank you very much. Does it look like a large black plastic wingnut? I just want to make sure I am working on the right part. Some pictures in the manual make it look like it is on the right side of the engine. I am not sure if they changed designs in 2015? Thanks again for the help.
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    I have 2014 5065e and i have seen many times in the winter condensation build up on the metal threads and fuel cap, and it is rusting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DamonSmathers View Post
    Thank you very much. Does it look like a large black plastic wingnut? I just want to make sure I am working on the right part. Some pictures in the manual make it look like it is on the right side of the engine. I am not sure if they changed designs in 2015? Thanks again for the help.
    Yes except not a wingnut just a knurled knob. I take that nut out also when I put in the new filter and then reinstall the nut. The hard line gets in the way to line up the notches in the filter with the housing.

    I tried putting a hose on the nut fitting to drain it off so as to not drain right on the starter. It binds up terribly. I just drain it and hit the starter with some brake cleaner now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAM2940 View Post
    I have 2014 5065e and i have seen many times in the winter condensation build up on the metal threads and fuel cap, and it is rusting.

    Yeah I didn't mention that. Not sure what to do about that rust.
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    Mine's a '12 and not rusting at all. I also don't keep it full and usually only put 10 gallons in at a time to keep it about half.

    I drain the water trap when I grease my pins and joints in the summer.
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