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    317 K321 Swap

    Putting a K321 in my 317. I want to make the swap reversible in case I find a nice twin for it. I just want to be able to run and move the tractor. The flywheel shroud is too low, so I need to lift the engine an inch and a half. Need to have someone fab up some mounts.
    1982 John deere 317, powered by Kohler Magnum 18
    1969 John deere 140 "One eyed Larry", powered by Kohler K241, H2 hydraulics
    1963 Burns B-60 Suburban, serial 1328

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudrig150 View Post
    Putting a K321 in my 317. I want to make the swap reversible in case I find a nice twin for it. I just want to be able to run and move the tractor. The flywheel shroud is too low, so I need to lift the engine an inch and a half. Need to have someone fab up some mounts.
    Do the holes line up so you just need a 1-1/2 inch spacer, or do you need a different bolt pattern? And where are you?

    Eric
    Last edited by EricJ; 03-13-2019 at 10:52 AM.

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    Entirely different bolt pattern.
    1982 John deere 317, powered by Kohler Magnum 18
    1969 John deere 140 "One eyed Larry", powered by Kohler K241, H2 hydraulics
    1963 Burns B-60 Suburban, serial 1328

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    Iím assuming you mean that the crank is to low? Thatís what matters, not the tin.

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    One thing I need to do to get a proper measurement is to bolt the cradle sides together to keep the cradle from pushing apart when setting the engine down in.
    1982 John deere 317, powered by Kohler Magnum 18
    1969 John deere 140 "One eyed Larry", powered by Kohler K241, H2 hydraulics
    1963 Burns B-60 Suburban, serial 1328

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    So guess I just need a shallow pan and 2 pieces of square steel to put the motor in. One thing I'm not looking forward to is having to cut the oil splasher off the rod.
    1982 John deere 317, powered by Kohler Magnum 18
    1969 John deere 140 "One eyed Larry", powered by Kohler K241, H2 hydraulics
    1963 Burns B-60 Suburban, serial 1328

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    Even the kt17 series 1 isnít bad. If you didnít sidehill while low on oil it was well lubricated. The only issue was when low on oil and also tilted.

    Kt17 series 2 had no issues whatsoever.

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    Problem ins't doubt, it's the inability to even just find a KT17. Plus I like the single cylinders.
    1982 John deere 317, powered by Kohler Magnum 18
    1969 John deere 140 "One eyed Larry", powered by Kohler K241, H2 hydraulics
    1963 Burns B-60 Suburban, serial 1328

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudrig150 View Post
    Problem ins't doubt, it's the inability to even just find a KT17. Plus I like the single cylinders.
    I understand opinions and plans can change, but that doesnít make history go away.





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    Im putting in the engine and the flywheel shroud is much larger than the flywheel itself, and in it's current state, it's too large to bring the motor back enough to be on the flywheel adapter's key. Luckily though they made the shroud curved on the bottom, so if I bring the motor up I can also bring it back.
    Everything else fits just fine.
    1982 John deere 317, powered by Kohler Magnum 18
    1969 John deere 140 "One eyed Larry", powered by Kohler K241, H2 hydraulics
    1963 Burns B-60 Suburban, serial 1328

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