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    Quote Originally Posted by rydplrs View Post
    I would liked to see scale data to back 100 lb difference, kohler added some tin, Deere added side panels, and a slightly larger fuel tank, but stripped of the body the late 110 and the replacement 200 series are basically identical.
    The hood is much heavier, there is a bit more in some places on the frame, mainly around the steering box mount, a few other things were tweaked. A 200 and 300 series hood ways like twice that off a 100 series hood. Also, that added weight comes from what you said, the thicker engine tins, the side panels, and the fuel tank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rydplrs View Post
    I would liked to see scale data to back 100 lb difference, kohler added some tin, Deere added side panels, and a slightly larger fuel tank, but stripped of the body the late 110 and the replacement 200 series are basically identical.
    I was going by Tractordata for the machine weights, which are the bare tractor without deck or add-ons. I've owned two 112's, and currently own two 200's, and there is a distinct difference in the weights. I'd hesitate to carry more than a couple hundred pounds in a loader on them just because of the wheelbases, not their total strength. Ability to withstand horsepower doesn't equate to frame or axle loading. It might be fun to see how much you can do with a small garden tractor, and be surprised at how much they can do, but it's not practical from a safety or reliability standpoint. It's one reason I traded my X7 for a compact.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KHodges View Post
    I was going by Tractordata for the machine weights, which are the bare tractor without deck or add-ons. I've owned two 112's, and currently own two 200's, and there is a distinct difference in the weights. I'd hesitate to carry more than a couple hundred pounds in a loader on them just because of the wheelbases, not their total strength. Ability to withstand horsepower doesn't equate to frame or axle loading. It might be fun to see how much you can do with a small garden tractor, and be surprised at how much they can do, but it's not practical from a safety or reliability standpoint. It's one reason I traded my X7 for a compact.
    If you want to put up an x7xx Iíll donate a 110 and we can load test them.

    Outside that Iíll respectfully disagree with your opinions.

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    Newbe has a loader Question JD 110 vers 210 or 212

    I just checked a couple manuals.

    The square fender manual lift 8hp 110 is 623 lbs, a manual lift 210 is 645.

    22 lbs difference which is just about what I expected. The block on a k241 is also larger so the difference in 8hp to 8hp would be even less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rydplrs View Post
    If you want to put up an x7xx
    Traded it in.

    Hope the OP got something positive out of this.
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    I have enjoyed the conversation. I have a very small yard with a small garden and I think based on what every one is saying that the 110/112 with a little loader will be just fine. And I do agree they make a nice conversation starter. Much like when some one sees a restored 110 withs itís 8hp engine and they say thatís bigger than the junk at the big box store with a bunch of plastic and an overrated 2xhp something.


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    I would think for a small yard your machine will serve you well. "If" it only lifts a couple hundred pounds, thats a couple hundred pounds you don't have to put on your shoulder. Use it for what it is and use it safe. Just make more trips.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clittrell View Post
    I have enjoyed the conversation. I have a very small yard with a small garden and I think based on what every one is saying that the 110/112 with a little loader will be just fine. And I do agree they make a nice conversation starter. Much like when some one sees a restored 110 withs it’s 8hp engine and they say that’s bigger and more capable than the junk at the big box store with a bunch of plastic and an overrated 2xhp something.
    Note my addition in bold ^
    If what you want from a loader is to spread mulch and compost, and haul bags of fertilizer from A to B, it'll be fine. Just don't expect to be able to dig much, even if you add a toothbar to the bucket, and be very careful with any load raised to the limit of the boom. Inflate your front tires to their limit to make steering easier with a load in the bucket.
    Last edited by KHodges; 11-01-2019 at 08:54 AM.
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