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    Newbe has a loader Question JD 110 vers 210 or 212

    I currently have a 74 JD 110 with a loader on it. Need work but goes up and down. It is a start of a new project. I have a 72 JD 110 that I totally redid in the early 90's. I have seen several 210 / 212s for sale in the area and wondered if this loader that fits a 110 would fit on a 210 or a 212. Would that be a better project?

    Here is a photo of the loader on the 110. I don't know enough about the different size tractors.

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    There are no advantages to a 210 or 212 vs your 110. Itís the same running gear, wheels are interchangeable, the operators station layout has no significant differences. The steering is nearly identical.
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    I guess HP is more the question. Without sounding dumb is 2 or 4 more HP worth it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clittrell View Post
    I guess HP is more the question. Without sounding dumb is 2 or 4 more HP worth it?
    Not for what you can safely lift in it. Even properly weighted, the tractor has a small footprint and the c/g will be high with a load in the bucket. Given what I could lift with the 45 loader on my X7, that loader will probably pick up a couple hundred pounds at best. I'd fix it up nice and take it to tractor shows, small GT's look cool with a loader.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KHodges View Post
    Not for what you can safely lift in it. Even properly weighted, the tractor has a small footprint and the c/g will be high with a load in the bucket. Given what I could lift with the 45 loader on my X7, that loader will probably pick up a couple hundred pounds at best. I'd fix it up nice and take it to tractor shows, small GT's look cool with a loader.
    That loader is much stronger than you think. It should lift about 500lbs. I could lift more with a Johnson then I could with a model 40 on a 445, and it didnít need to be throttled up to max out.

    That said, I think 8hp is more then enough for that setup. If the op needs more power he would know it and not be asking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rydplrs View Post
    That loader is much stronger than you think. It should lift about 500lbs. I could lift more with a Johnson then I could with a model 40 on a 445, and it didnít need to be throttled up to max out.

    That said, I think 8hp is more then enough for that setup. If the op needs more power he would know it and not be asking.
    Mine (45 on X748) topped out at 450 pounds (measured by fertilizer bags), then the PRV would open; I never shimmed it. I'd hesitate to try lifting 500 pounds with a 100 or 200 series, though. By the time you have enough ballast as counterweight, you've overloaded the axles; the 110 only weighs 550 lb and the 200's about 650-675. Putting 500 pounds + the loader weight out in front and driving it around would be hard on the equipment, IMO, even if it was able to pick it up.
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    As has been said, they are both pretty much the same tractor. Personally I much prefer the stying of the 110/112 over the 200 series. That loader looks really cool. Need some more pics of it! Is that a factory hydro lift tractor or does it have some other pump installed?

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    Thanks for all in info. The loader has a small pump that runs of the pto. Iíll get some photos.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KHodges View Post
    Mine (45 on X748) topped out at 450 pounds (measured by fertilizer bags), then the PRV would open; I never shimmed it. I'd hesitate to try lifting 500 pounds with a 100 or 200 series, though. By the time you have enough ballast as counterweight, you've overloaded the axles; the 110 only weighs 550 lb and the 200's about 650-675. Putting 500 pounds + the loader weight out in front and driving it around would be hard on the equipment, IMO, even if it was able to pick it up.

    The frame is 1/4 steel, and the transaxle is built for up to 40 hp, the front axle were the weak point until 72 when they moved from 3/4Ē spindles to 1Ē.

    The ability to turn the steering wheel limits the capacity more then any potential part weakness.

    I would liked to see scale data to back 100 lb difference, kohler added some tin, Deere added side panels, and a slightly larger fuel tank, but stripped of the body the late 110 and the replacement 200 series are basically identical.

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