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    Mowing steep hill

    I have a 4610 with 84" grooming mower I use for big area and I have a z950m with 72" deck for around my house and pool but I have a steep hill that I mow side to side. If I go down the hill I can keep it slow enough MOST of the time but at time the rear wheel lock up and slide tearing of my grass. Hasn't been a big issue till this year. We have been getting some heavy rain so each spot I either turned sharp on or slid down is eroding my yard away. I have 12 psi of air and have been reading up on the tweels but not sure they will help. Do you guys think adding ballast to the wheels will help or hurt? Or should I look for a smaller 4 wheel drive tractor with a mid deck? I will try and post a pic of the hill


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    I can back down and ride up the steep hills around here with no issues. Right until the front end gets real light. You can add weights to help. But the more you add to the front to help mow up and down hills, it makes the Z want to ditch dive even more if you side-hill mow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselshadow View Post
    I can back down and ride up the steep hills around here with no issues. Right until the front end gets real light. You can add weights to help. But the more you add to the front to help mow up and down hills, it makes the Z want to ditch dive even more if you side-hill mow.
    Ya I can go up hill perfect as well. My problem is I have trees with landscape borders and as I am going down hill I need to turn left and go sideways then back up hill to go around perimeter but as soon as I turn my left wheel stops and slides tearing up grass then it rains and washes it away.


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    I had to learn certain patterns on how to mow just to work with the Z and the terrain. If you can't make it work, then you may have to look at a different machine as you were originally asking about.

    Can you post a picture or two of the area in question?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dieselshadow View Post
    I had to learn certain patterns on how to mow just to work with the Z and the terrain. If you can't make it work, then you may have to look at a different machine as you were originally asking about.

    Can you post a picture or two of the area in question?
    Ya I will get some better pics tomorrow. I have adjusted my pattern but there are a few spots where no matter how careful I am the wheel still slides. May add ballast to the tires and try that first


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    How much area are you talking about? And any idea on the grade or angle? Depending on the pitch of the slope, ballast may not do any good because once you lose traction, these mowers slide. If you're beyond the slope mowing capacity, added ballast will just make you slide faster. My max slope is 30 degrees, or nearly a 60% grade, dry. I go straight down and back up. If it's wet, I don't do it. I've slide down that hill before and it's about a 75' ride. I'm not worried about tipping, I'm worried about hitting a tree. My ZTR weighs in at 1800lbs, so weight isn't the issue. If I put lugged tires on, I know I could go up the hill but the turf damage would be major. To me, there's no way around this. Wet or muddy, I have to wait for the area to dry out. Or use the string trimmer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by addy View Post
    How much area are you talking about? And any idea on the grade or angle? Depending on the pitch of the slope, ballast may not do any good because once you lose traction, these mowers slide. If you're beyond the slope mowing capacity, added ballast will just make you slide faster. My max slope is 30 degrees, or nearly a 60% grade, dry. I go straight down and back up. If it's wet, I don't do it. I've slide down that hill before and it's about a 75' ride. I'm not worried about tipping, I'm worried about hitting a tree. My ZTR weighs in at 1800lbs, so weight isn't the issue. If I put lugged tires on, I know I could go up the hill but the turf damage would be major. To me, there's no way around this. Wet or muddy, I have to wait for the area to dry out. Or use the string trimmer.
    I have not figured the slope yet. I will get some measurements and figure it out. Adding ballast and making it worse was one of my concerns as well.


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    The steep parts I mow up then back down then mow up again, as dieselshadow does.
    I also bolted two, 1/2" x 3" steel plates to the front of our Z915B. One was not enough, three was too many, two was just right. No wheelies here and does side hill better.

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    The rear weight bumper really adds some good traction as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmo2 View Post
    The steep parts I mow up then back down then mow up again, as dieselshadow does.
    I also bolted two, 1/2" x 3" steel plates to the front of our Z915B. One was not enough, three was too many, two was just right. No wheelies here and does side hill better.

    Carriage bolts up front...

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    Backside looking through floor board...

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    That's a good idea. No wheelie issue but may help me on a couple places I have


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