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    Remove Battery on Z710A for the Winter.

    Just some thought here on if I should remove the battery in my Z710A. I still have the original factory John Deere battery in the Z710A. I've never removed it during the winters the past 4 years. Due it's age.. I think it may be subject to winter stress for the age, and safe to remove it and store it in a warner area of the home.

    Wouldn't hurt I suppose.!

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    Our Z950R is brand new, but I still removed it and put it on a tender for the time being. I’ve started it once already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kbeaag View Post
    Just some thought here on if I should remove the battery in my Z710A. I still have the original factory John Deere battery in the Z710A. I've never removed it during the winters the past 4 years. Due it's age.. I think it may be subject to winter stress for the age, and safe to remove it and store it in a warner area of the home.

    Wouldn't hurt I suppose.!
    Depends on how cold your mowers storage area is. If it goes well below freezing might be worth pulling it out. Keeping it fully charged is a better bet. Batteries actually discharge faster in warm temperatures. Much like a cat you are not always doing the battery a favor by bringing it inside.

    Summer heat is what usually damages your battery. Then winter temperature just finishes it off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by H-D dealer dude View Post
    Depends on how cold your mowers storage area is. If it goes well below freezing might be worth pulling it out. Keeping it fully charged is a better bet. Batteries actually discharge faster in warm temperatures. Much like a cat you are not always doing the battery a favor by bringing it inside.

    Summer heat is what usually damages your battery. Then winter temperature just finishes it off.

    Now that is a new twist on something I've never heard about a battery...warmer weather is more damaging. When it's always been that batteries goes bad during the winter.

    My 36' x 36' garage is well insulated to the tune it's probably 10 degrees warmer inside than outside during the winter. I have a Diehard #71239 Platinum Maintainer connected to the battery now, and I've heard these maintainers are not always good for older batteries.
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    I leave the battery in our Z915B. I also start the mower ~ once a month.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kbeaag View Post
    Now that is a new twist on something I've never heard about a battery...warmer weather is more damaging. When it's always been that batteries goes bad during the winter.

    My 36' x 36' garage is well insulated to the tune it's probably 10 degrees warmer inside than outside during the winter. I have a Diehard #71239 Platinum Maintainer connected to the battery now, and I've heard these maintainers are not always good for older batteries.
    I've heard similar information. I think it's safe to say that either extreme (hot/cold) is hard on a battery. Unfortunately we all don't live where it is 70 degrees year round. :-) My 2720 battery suffered sudden death towards the end of summer when it was still warm out. I always kept a solar battery tender on it.

    My shed is unheated and I leave my X500 in the mower over winter. I do try to run it now and then. Since I don't have electricity in the shed I use a Battery Tender 10W solar maintainer. It works well on the 2720 battery. I should probably just alternate it every week or so between the X500 and 2720.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gizmo2 View Post
    I leave the battery in our Z915B. I also start the mower ~ once a month.
    I do the same. It is important to let the engine warm up each time you start it to evaporate the condensation that forms inside the engine.
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    Yes summer heat is usually the killer. When the temperature turns cold the battery needs power reserves it no longer can supply. The battery's self discharge rate rises with the temperature.

    Leaving the battery in generally doesn't hurt. Unless you have a problem. Like the plastic case cracks from freezing or the charger goes haywire. The plastic case can also be damaged from severe overcharging.

    A fully charged battery is less likely to freeze. A discharged/dead battery will freeze easily. I'm taking about the acid inside.

    That being said. I normally leave the battery in my tractor. It usually gets used year round weather permitting. (Dry grass growing or snow falling) I put a tender on about once a month if I'm not using it. Once the light is green it is time to come off. This was I don't come back to find any surprises. This is why it's worthwhile buying a good tender that shuts down when done. However it is no guarantee that you will never have a problem.

    Now if the battery has a constant draw from like a radio or clock charge it more often. This is usually not a problem with lawn mowers.

    Test or maintenance starting is hard on equipment for various reasons. Resist the temptation to start it for no reason. If it's time to put it to work have at it. Otherwise it is better to just let it sit.
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    The owner's manual for my generator says for long term storage to remove the battery and put it on a maintainer or tender. What's the difference of leaving it installed and on a tender (which is what I do). But to be fair the generator does get run at least once every 60 days.
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    Went out today and started the Z710A. It cranked about 10 seconds and I stopped. Waited a few seconds to try once more. It started on the third try. It hadn't been started in two months.

    This sure put the wear on the starter, and I often thought about removing the factory fuel pump and install a 12 volt electric one. I'm going to get on the Internet and search for a 12 volt one and just may install one for that reason...easy fast starting.

    Will keep all of you informed on what I come up with. I'm use to fuel injection as on the automobiles. A lawn tractor should have the same.

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