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Figured I'd post my experience here to save the next n00b a little heartburn.

I was cutting a newer section of our property for the first time and managed to run into a short stump. Immediately realized that I'd bent the housing under the deck. Cut the PTO, back out of there, and make a run back towards the house. Realize that I'm about to remove the 60D for the first time since I've purchased the mower. Follow the directions, remove the deck, check the housing and pound the dent back out. Blades turn freely again, everything looks good.

I go to put the deck back on. Check the instructions...and then spend the next couple of hours pushing the deck around trying to get it re-attached. Consult the directions again. Come to GTT and read all the posts I can find. Adjust my procedure a little, still no luck. In the process, I manage to break the pivot rod.

Order the part and keep scratching my head. I can get the deck mostly engaged (though not locked). By "mostly," I mean that the left rear hook needs to be lowered slightly to engage the deck correctly. Should be a simple adjustment, but the PTO just won't align right with the gear box at all. It just hangs way too low. Dangling and flopping around, and it doesn't make a bit of sense. In fact, I can't figure out how it ever aligned right.

Head to the dealer to ask some questions...what could I be doing wrong? As a n00b, the safest assumption is operator error. We go out to the lot and look at another 1025R that's set up with the MMM and dig around underneath. Then I notice the bearing bolt, which holds the PTO in alignment for mating with the gearbox.

I don't have one, and it's obvious that this is the issue.

I order another one, plus the washers and nuts, then recheck my tractor when I get back home. Could it have broken off somehow? I don't see any signs of damage or scratching. On the other hand, if it's been missing from day 1 (and I couldn't tell you one way or another, to be honest), how on earth would they have gotten the deck on there to begin with? One guy hand-aligning it while another drove it over the deck? My guess is that it broke off somewhere, somehow but I've no clue when or how it could have happened.

The dealer was helpful, but the guys told me that the the autoconnect stuff was new to them and they didn't have a ton of experience yet. OTOH, now that I know about the missing part, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot to it. One thing I will absolutely be doing once I have the pivot and bearing re-installed is to run through the sticky'ed setup process again to make sure there's nothing else amiss.

Anyway, thanks for reading my adventure. Here's to getting it fixed and running again soon before the grass covers the swingset and the chickens disappear completely.
 

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Adjusted correctly the deck is a dream to take on and off but out of alignment, they are no fun. Spend the time to get to know and understand the auto-connect system and that in and of itself will help greatly with setup.

After studying mine it is hard to believe it took them this long to come up with auto-connect, it really is simple.
 

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Figured I'd post my experience here to save the next n00b a little heartburn.

I was cutting a newer section of our property for the first time and managed to run into a short stump. Immediately realized that I'd bent the housing under the deck. Cut the PTO, back out of there, and make a run back towards the house. Realize that I'm about to remove the 60D for the first time since I've purchased the mower. Follow the directions, remove the deck, check the housing and pound the back out. Blades turn freely again, everything looks good.

I go to put the deck back on. Check the instructions...and then spend the next couple of hours pushing the deck around trying to get it re-attached. Consult the directions again. Come to GTT and read all the posts I can find. Adjust my process a little, still no luck. In the process, I managed to break the pivot rod. Order the part and keep scratching my head. I can get the deck mostly engaged (though not locked). By "mostly," I mean that the left rear hook needs to be lowered slightly to engage the deck correctly. Should be a simple adjustment, but the PTO just won't align right with the gear box at all. It just hangs way too low. Dangling and flopping around, and it doesn't make a bit of sense. In fact, I can't figure out how it ever aligned right.

Head to the dealer to ask some questions...what could I be doing wrong? As a n00b, the safest assumption is operator error. We go out to the lot and look at another 1025R that's set up with the MMM and dig around underneath. Then I notice the bearing bolt, which holds the PTO in alignment for mating with the gearbox.

I don't have one, and it's obvious that this is the issue.

I order one, plus the washers and nuts, then recheck my tractor when I get back home. Could it have broken off somehow? I don't see any signs of damage or scratching. On the other hand, if it's been missing from day 1 (and I couldn't tell you one way or another, to be honest), how on earth would they have gotten the deck on there to begin with? One guy hand-aligning it while another drove it over the deck? My guess is that it broke off somewhere, somehow but I've no clue when or how it could have happened.

The dealer was helpful, but the guys told me that the the autoconnect stuff was new to them and they didn't have a ton of experience yet. OTOH, now that I know about the missing part, there doesn't seem to be a whole lot to it. One thing I will absolutely be doing once I have the pivot and bearing re-installed is to run through the sticky'ed setup process again to make sure there's nothing else amiss.

Anyway, thanks for reading my adventure. Here's to getting it fixed and running again soon before the grass covers the swingset and the chickens disappear completely.
Seen a couple of post where the bolt was missing. I'd guess that is vibrated loose.
 

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I'd bet that bolt wasn't tight in the first place. Once setup right, maybe a bit of the green lock-tite to prevent loosening and eventual loss.

Here's the bolt in question so everybody knows what we're talking about.

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When I went to look at my used 1023E the mower wasn't attached, so I asked him to show how the auto-connect worked. We had a hell of a time - I had to hold the PTO in place while he drove it forward. Was worried I'd lose a finger or hand. Finally got it on. When I got home, looked at this forum I realized the alignment bolt was broken off. I don't think the previous owner had a clue. I ordered a new one with nuts and washers, but haven't installed it yet (haven't needed the mower yet, we just got a foot of snow in the north Mpls/St.Paul area last night). But, the way the bolt broke off it is bent on one end. I just hope I can get it out without damaging the PTO bearing pillow. I'll probably deal with it when I take the tractor apart to put the electric solenoid valve kit on for the independent lift to make it truly independent of both the 3PH and the FEL.

btw, for those who have actually used the auto-connect / drive-over feature of the MMM, the one time we tried it on a concrete floor, it just slid along the floor both trying to drive over it and trying to connect it. We had to use the loader to lift the front end of the tractor off the ground to get it up on the mower deck. I assume you either need to do it on the ground (not a slippery surface) or put something under it so it won't slide on the floor. ???
 

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When I went to look at my used 1023E the mower wasn't attached, so I asked him to show how the auto-connect worked. We had a hell of a time - I had to hold the PTO in place while he drove it forward. Was worried I'd lose a finger or hand. Finally got it on. When I got home, looked at this forum I realized the alignment bolt was broken off. I don't think the previous owner had a clue. I ordered a new one with nuts and washers, but haven't installed it yet (haven't needed the mower yet, we just got a foot of snow in the north Mpls/St.Paul area last night). But, the way the bolt broke off it is bent on one end. I just hope I can get it out without damaging the PTO bearing pillow. I'll probably deal with it when I take the tractor apart to put the electric solenoid valve kit on for the independent lift to make it truly independent of both the 3PH and the FEL.

btw, for those who have actually used the auto-connect / drive-over feature of the MMM, the one time we tried it on a concrete floor, it just slid along the floor both trying to drive over it and trying to connect it. We had to use the loader to lift the front end of the tractor off the ground to get it up on the mower deck. I assume you either need to do it on the ground (not a slippery surface) or put something under it so it won't slide on the floor. ???
My deck sits on a slick concrete floor and I have no issue driving over it or connecting. When driving over the deck you must be in 4wd, the front tires pulling will keep the deck in place.

As for the actual connection, if everything is adjusted correctly, it will slide together with very little force.
 

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You may have just saved me a service call.

I was trying to do the "super easy" auto connect this weekend...for over an hour. The FIRST problem I noticed was THAT bolt just hanging there way too low and looser than anything useful could be. It was hanging so low that it was catching the cross bar and then just dragging the deck forward without letting any connection.

So, I took it off. Needless to say, nothing lined up after that (well, it didn't line up before that either).

When I get home I'll post a pic of the bolt before I took it off.
 

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My deck sits on a slick concrete floor and I have no issue driving over it or connecting. When driving over the deck you must be in 4wd, the front tires pulling will keep the deck in place.
That was probably the issue. I assumed the owner at the time knew what he was doing, but clearly he did not. Thx.
 

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You may have just saved me a service call.

I was trying to do the "super easy" auto connect this weekend...for over an hour. The FIRST problem I noticed was THAT bolt just hanging there way too low and looser than anything useful could be. It was hanging so low that it was catching the cross bar and then just dragging the deck forward without letting any connection.

So, I took it off. Needless to say, nothing lined up after that (well, it didn't line up before that either).

When I get home I'll post a pic of the bolt before I took it off.


I can't post a link right now, but at the top of the SCUT forum there's an excellent sticky article on adjusting the mower deck for a 1 series tractor.
 

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I am one of those that had the bolt come loose. Fortunately I found the washer and nut on the drive before I disconnected the deck. When I disconnected the deck, I poured over every inch of the mower deck to see where it could have come from. Not finding anything there my next stop was underneath the tractor. Found it instantly and went and grabbed the instructions on the auto-connect. It had simply vibrated loose. I think what happens is when they install them at the dealership, they leave them slightly loose to adjust the height on the initial connect of the deck and they forget to tighten it down after the deck is connected. Once I tightened them, no loctite or anything, just sandwiching the bearing housing, I haven't had an issue with it since.

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Anyone know what size the nut is. I have the bolt but the nut is missing. Im in town and forgot to bring the bolt.

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Parts for the missing bolt

For the reference of anyone who finds this thread in the future - the parts to replace this bolt are as follows (should yours also vanish into thin air and/or the grass):

  • Cap Screw - 19M8568, qty 1
  • M10 Flange nut - 14M7296, qty 2
  • M10 F WSHR,HDWM 24M7178 (washer), qty 1
They're parts 9, 10, and 15 on this diagram from the JD parts catalog. GreenPartStore.com totals it up to around $7, not including shipping.

If, like me, you've also managed to mangle up the pivot rod that locks the deck in place after attachment, you want LVA16090. Note that this is for a 60" deck; not sure if the part number is the same for the 54" version. GPS shows it at $14 and change. The springs are separate. Mine is still hanging there.

So about $20 worth of parts for everything, add shipping and you're more or less back in business. Hope this is useful.

(and now for some new jack stands and a gigantic oil pan, as I just hit 50 hours...)
 

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I just put my auto connect MMM on and off twice this week. Since I hadn't had it on since I got the tractor other than when I first received from the dealer, I took a little extra time to investigate exactly what all happens to make the deck align.
After if drove over the deck, I stopped before it actually engaged. I looked under the deck to see how everything aligned and what adjustment points made the whole thing work. It really isn't that complicated once you understand it.
Two things the dealer told me you must do is use 4 x 4 and low range when driving over the deck and make sure the rear PTO is in neutral. This allows the drive shaft to rotate while it is self aligning on the mower gearbox shaft. If you do the process correctly and have the adjustments correct, it really works pretty well.
 

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This is what it looked like when it confused the living daylights out of me. Just a bolt hanging from a hole not seemingly attached to anything. Getting in the way of the attachment.
Once I tightened it up and realigned everything it took all of 30 seconds to attach the deck.
 

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This is what it looked like when it confused the living daylights out of me. Just a bolt hanging from a hole not seemingly attached to anything. Getting in the way of the attachment.
Once I tightened it up and realigned everything it took all of 30 seconds to attach the deck.
Yeah....that was definitely a problem. Maybe these should be locknuts with washers instead of a standard flange nut?


Then again, once I had mine adjusted and tight, I never had an issue after that.
 

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This is what it looked like when it confused the living daylights out of me. Just a bolt hanging from a hole not seemingly attached to anything. Getting in the way of the attachment.
Once I tightened it up and realigned everything it took all of 30 seconds to attach the deck.
Nice! You can imagine how confusing it was to see my PTO flopping around with no bolt at all...
 

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Postscript, maybe

Postscript: I managed to get the deck back on, but not without a whole lot effort. The problem is basically tightness of fit in the rear brackets. It's really, really snug and even with everything lined up correctly, I just end up pushing the deck forward.

I got off, killed the power, verified everything was aligned properly, then sat on the ground from the front and pushed it the last inch with my feet. Everything got seated correctly and I tapped the pivot rod up with a hammer (I had to tap it lightly to loosen it and unlock the deck when I took it off originally). :nunu:

Power on, raised/lowered deck, set the wheel height, engaged PTO and heard the turbo-roar from underneath.

So I can finally finish cutting grass now. I imagine that over time it will install easier than it did today, but man alive those tolerances are tight as can be.
 

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Postscript: I managed to get the deck back on, but not without a whole lot effort. The problem is basically tightness of fit in the rear brackets. It's really, really snug and even with everything lined up correctly, I just end up pushing the deck forward.

I got off, killed the power, verified everything was aligned properly, then sat on the ground from the front and pushed it the last inch with my feet. Everything got seated correctly and I tapped the pivot rod up with a hammer (I had to tap it lightly to loosen it and unlock the deck when I took it off originally). :nunu:

Power on, raised/lowered deck, set the wheel height, engaged PTO and heard the turbo-roar from underneath.

So I can finally finish cutting grass now. I imagine that over time it will install easier than it did today, but man alive those tolerances are tight as can be.
Yup, mine had a few burs in the hooks of the mower. I found a like-sized socket and filed the burs until the socket fit really good.

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It didn't take much, so take your time. It's a lot easier to remove the metal, but harder to put it back.:good2:
 
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