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Well my 2018 1025r has engine trouble again at 23 hours. I had written before that at 4 hours while I was cutting grass it started to run rough than died numerous times. My dealer picked it up and they said that the fuel pump was bad, replaced it and the filters (not sure about under floorboard filter). all was well for 18 hours.

My tractor had 22 hours when they picked it up Monday to install my Mauser cab, block heater and 55 amp alternator. I got it back In 3 days and was very impressed with the cab and the lights. I drove it around the yard for about 15 minutes last night to assess the lighting. The back windshield light is fantastic and the roof mounted lights were very good after a little adjustment.

Today I decided to use the tractor to work on removing some Buckthorn. I hooked up the bucket and was using the hydraulics to pull some of this crap out. The tractor started to sputter and ran rough for about 15 seconds and died. It started and died a couple more times. I decided to leave it and put a call in to my dealer. He was very busy and I didn’t get back to me for a couple hours. While I was waiting for his call I tried the tractor again, it started and ran rough for 15 seconds smoothed out and ran fine so I put it in the garage. Two bad fuel pumps in 23 hours just doesn’t seem probable. I believe it is something else.

Things I’ve checked:
Fuel in filter on side of engine looks fine with no apparent water or sediment.
In line floorboard filter is full with no apparent water or sediment.
Fuel shut off lever wide open.

I wish I would have checked the filters when it was running rough and died but I didn’t. If it’s sucking air under load I might have seen some bubbles or a partially filled filter.

I told the dealer I would drop it off on Monday and am looking for other opinions on what could be the issue.

Disappointed, I just got my CTA 66” Loader mounted plow last Saturday and figured I was ready for winter. I was going to take the tractor to the cabin next week and do some trail work but now I’m not confident about being there alone a mile or two from the cabin and I might have a tractor that won’t run and no help to get it back to the trailer. UGH!
 

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Have you checked the fuel filter? Is the red ring floating or sitting on the bottom? Where are you getting your fuel? How old is it?

Diesel isn’t like gasoline. There’s a lot of info on the site here about diesel fuel. Check out the general tractor ownership forum and tractor maintenance forum here. Lots of good reading.
 

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Red ring in filter on bottom. I get fuel at my local Fleet Farm.
 

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It's very disappointing when I hear about problems like this with these new tractors. To be honest, it was one of the reason's why I struggled with the decision to spend the money to buy a new tractor and all the implements. My 455 was so reliable and dependable for over 20 years and other than regular maintenance, that was all it required.

Then I read about these strange issues. I can see someone getting a bad fuel pump. But more than one in such few hours of operation? Extremely unlikely......I put one fuel pump in my 455 in 23 years and 2,600 hours. That's to be expected........And with my fuel pump, the tractor would run, just not have any power going up hills. The moment I would climb even a small ditch, it would stumble and start to quit, but even turning it downhill would give it enough fuel to keep running.


I hope its something simple and I look forward to hearing what the dealer finds. It's a terrible feeling to have spent that much money and have that nagging feeling you can't trust or rely on your machine.........

You were very good about follow up posting on your previous issue, so I am sure you will be on this issue as well. That's very important as it helps all of us learn about what the issue might have been......

To be honest, I doubt the original fuel pump was bad and I bet it's something else entirely..........Unless Deere is buying some real junk fuel pumps now......which I hope isn't the case.

I really hate hearing you are having these issues with this machine................:banghead::dunno:
 

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I know it's tough with that type of fuel tank but check inside for something that may be floating around getting caught over suction tube. Had that happen a few times over the years on big equipment. Would just start sputtering and shut off. Once was the plastic from a cigarette pack, another was a plastic cap from a hydraulic line.
 

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Have you checked the fuel filter? Is the red ring floating or sitting on the bottom? Where are you getting your fuel? How old is it?
What is the red ring and what does it mean?


Sportshot2, I hope they find the problem. Nothing worse than chasing a problem!!!!
 
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What is the red ring and what does it mean?
The red ring floats on water. Water sinks in diesel fuel. So if the ring isn’t on the bottom, you have water in your fuel. The filter should be drained immediately and your fuel source should be checked for contamination.
 

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You may want to have the fuel shut-off solenoid and associated linkage checked. If the solenoid and/or linkage is not fully engaging, this would create a fuel starvation issue that your symptoms are indicative thereof.
 

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You may want to have the fuel shut-off solenoid and associated linkage checked. If the solenoid and/or linkage is not fully engaging, this would create a fuel starvation issue that you’re symptoms are indicative thereof.
I’ll mention this to the tech on Monday, thank you for the suggestion.

So today I used the tractor again and after about 45 minutes it did it again. After it died I immediately checked the side and under floorboard fuel filters and they both looked full with no sediment and no indication of any air in the filters.

I pulled out my phone and I’ve never really used it for taking videos so by the time I figured it out it was running fine again. Crap well I’ll catch it next time
 

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I had the same issue on mine at about 20-30 hours, fuel filters looked good and couldn’t find the issue. Finally I just went ahead and replaced the floorboard fuel filter after reading some posts and bam it was fixed! The fuel filter didn’t even look bad on visual inspection, but for some reason it was restricting flow. I think it is worth a shot to try to replace that.


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I had the same issue on mine at about 20-30 hours, fuel filters looked good and couldn’t find the issue. Finally I just went ahead and replaced the floorboard fuel filter after reading some posts and bam it was fixed! The fuel filter didn’t even look bad on visual inspection, but for some reason it was restricting flow. I think it is worth a shot to try to replace that.


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Good call. They're only about $5. I'm sure the dealer could just give him one to try=minimal downtime.
 

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Good call. They're only about $5. I'm sure the dealer could just give him one to try=minimal downtime.
Yup, I Called dealer and requested one before I dropped it on their doorstep to diagnose and they gave me one for free to try! Fixed it right up! I was getting pissed at 20 hours to have it barely run and ready to drop it off at dealer after 2 weeks of the issue. It definitely felt like a fuel issue but I just couldn’t see anything wrong with the filters. Just searched here and found a few threads on the floor board one being a culprit and figured it was worth a try.

This forum is awesome with so much information!

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l dropped the tractor off this morning and gave my dealer the information that other owners have had problems regarding the under floorboard fuel filter issue and the possibility of a problem with the fuel shut off solenoid or linkage.

Well, less than 2 hours later I received a call and they believe the problem was with the fuel pump. They say the fuel pump wasn’t even running and there was no power to it. I said BUT BUT, it would run at full throttle how could it not be working.
Anyways when they installed the Mauser cab it seems like there was a mix up on which wires connected to the fuel pump. Maybe the color coding for Europe is different than the USA and they evidently connected the wrong wires to the fuel pump and said it was completely their fault. They now have power to the pump and everything seems to be working fine. I am still very skeptical.

I asked them to change the fuel filter under the floorboard again and they agreed. Maybe they had it fixed with the wiring change but because of what some of my fellow GTT members experience I wanted a new filter too.

Thanks for for everyone’s input.
 

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Good to hear. Keeping my fingers crossed for you :thumbup1gif:
 
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