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Everything I've read says the 1025r & H120 has a lift capacity of 836lbs. So I was rather surprised when I put in 10 JD Quick-Tatch (R127764) weights in the bucket and the loader operated (curl, rise, lower, dump) just fine (minus the DBS of course) at idle.

So that is 1040lbs, 20% above the rated capacity. I do believe I could have moved more but was concerned I didn't have enough balast.

Is that normal for these "little" tractors to be underrated, that underrated?
 

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That rating is at full height, you can lift more but not as high...by these specs I found you can lift 955lbs to 59" high, so lifting 1000+ pounds a foot or two high is very believable.


Manufacturer
MODEL
John Deere
H120
Tractor
Model 1023E/1026R Tractor
Front Tire 18x8.5-10 4PR R4
Rear Tire 26x12.00-12 4PR R4
Wheelbase 57-in. (1450 mm)
Pump capacity, gpm 3.5
Rated pressure, psi 1987
Loader
Bucket used 49 in. (1250 mm) pin-on materials
Bucket weight, lb. (kg) 112 (51)
Lift capacity at full height, lb. (kg) ---
Measured at pivot (U) 836 (380)
Measured at 500 mm ahead of pivot (V) 576 (262)
Measured at 800 mm ahead of pivot (V) ---
Lift capacity at 59 in. (1500 mm), lb. (kg) ---
Measured at pivot (W) 955 (434)
Measured at 500 mm ahead of pivot (X) 686 (312)
Measured at 800 mm ahead of pivot (X) ---
Boom breakout force, lbf (kgf) ---
Measured at pivot (Y) 1819 (825)
Measured at 500 mm ahead of pivot (Z) 1245 (565)
Measured at 800 mm ahead of pivot (Z) ---
Bucket rollback force capacity, lbf (kgf) ---
At maximum height (VV) 1330 (603)
At 59-in. (1500-mm) lift height (XX) 1568 (711)
At ground level line (ZZ) 1559 (707)
Dimensions ---
Maximum lift height, in. (mm) (A) 71.2 (1809)
Clearance ---
At full height - bucket level, in. (mm) (B) 65.1 (1653)
At full height - bucket dumped, in. (mm) (C) 54 (1371)
Overall length (I+F), ft. (m) 8.6 (2.6)
Overall height in carry position (J), ft. (m) N/A
Digging depth, in. (mm) (H) -4.0 (-101)
Reach ---
At max. height, in. (mm) (D) 22.5 (571)
At ground level - bucket level, in. (mm) (F) 46.3 (1176)
Bucket Angle ---
Dump angle, degrees (E) :-40.1
Rollback angle, degrees (G) 31.2
Dump angle, ground -114.0
Cycle times ---
Loader raise, seconds 4.0
Loader lower, seconds 2.5
Bucket dump, seconds 5.7 (without regen)/2.2 (with regen)
Bucket rollback, seconds 3.5
 

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The 1040 lbs was to full height. Not until I put my 250 lb butt in the bucket did it stall at about 2 feet off the ground.
 

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There's some wiggle room within that rating I'm sure. If your hydraulic pressure is just a few psi higher, that'll give you a touch more lifting capability. If I wrote the spec, I'd give myself just a bit of wiggle room to make sure the end product met spec even with little variances between machines.
 

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Very true plus I just realized some are actually 93lb weights which can make up to 100lb difference when talking 10 weights in the bucket.

Still impressed.
 

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Cool! :thumbup1gif:

Happy to hear it!
 

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Resurrecting this old thread, wondering if that 955lbs at 59" includes the weight of the bucket? I have to assume it does. So if one is using forks weighing less than a bucket then that number gets even better?
 
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1025r & H120 Lift Capacity - Underrated?

It does not include the weight of the bucket, because there are a variety of different buckets sold with the 1 series. Lift capacity is measured at the attachment points empty.

You are correct though, you do get more capacity with some forks than the bucket because they are lighter.
 

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Great that it can carry the weight, but the axles have got to be screaming. Hopefully you had plenty of counterweight on the rear of the machine to help balance it all out.
 

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H120 Lift and Weight

Everything I've read says the 1025r & H120 has a lift capacity of 836lbs. So I was rather surprised when I put in 10 JD Quick-Tatch (R127764) weights in the bucket and the loader operated (curl, rise, lower, dump) just fine (minus the DBS of course) at idle.

So that is 1040lbs, 20% above the rated capacity. I do believe I could have moved more but was concerned I didn't have enough balast.

Is that normal for these "little" tractors to be underrated, that underrated?
I'm building a loading system to put my 1025R w/H120 into the back of my 3500 DRW. Looking for weight and lift capacities is challenging. Tonight I found a sticker on the left arm of the H120 stating a mass of 117kg and max lift of 262 kg. That's 258 / 577 pounds respectively. The John Deere site states a lift 512, the Mutton 849....... Then someone weighed them out to be about 520 pounds. Well, I saw the scales and have to go by that, or weigh it myself.
 

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The 49in bucket is actually 165 lbs, I weighed it myself using a hanging scale. Also I used the same hanging scale, chains and a ground anchor to measure the lifting force of the H120 loader, it read 560lbs, using a hydraulic pressure gauge, I also measured the pressure, it read right at 2000psi. Anyone know how much I could safely increase this pressure to? Assuming I had proper ballast for the load I was lifting. Label on loader says "Mass 117kg, Max Lift 262kg, Max Pressure 172 Bar" which translates to Mass 258 lbs, Max Lift 578 lbs, Max Pressure 2495 lbs
 
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