Wow... that is a loaded question. Oil choice is similar to fuel additives and the need for chains in the winter. If you ask 12 people you will likely get 10 different answers.What is the best motor oil for my 1025r? It is a 2018 and this is its 1st oil change.
Engine oil too clean? :dunno:Just my .02cents, if you read the owners manual Deere has pushed the first engine service out 2 or past 100hrs & there is a tech sheet somewhere stating if the owner requires an oil change at 50hrs to reinstall Deere break-in oil until specified time. I work on quite a few Yanmar engines both in Deere "skid steered" & gen sets and have seen three cases where engine oil quality "too clean, too many detergents, not soupy enough to promote good cylinder etching & carry the debris away" has caused ultimately engine damage or premature wear I.e. low compression. You can go on the Yanmar u.s. site & see what Yanmar recommends for this engine family as well.
This has been debated before. I would like to see some actual documentation. Got any links?there is a tech sheet somewhere stating if the owner requires an oil change at 50hrs to reinstall Deere break-in oil until specified time. You can go on the Yanmar u.s. site & see what Yanmar recommends for this engine family as well.
Any chance you could send some of that stock to Wisconsin? I run the Shell Rotella T6 5W-40 year round in my 1025r. I've looked at four different dealers and not a one of them stocks the John Deere full synthetic 0W-40. They can order it, but don't seem to interested to do so. Not a demand for it so they don't sell it.I like the Deere 0-40 full synthetic. This stuff sits on our shelves SO long that I get it under cost. For whatever reason it just doesn't sell. So I get it at times for $1 a Qt. I stock pile it!
Basic math makes me agree with you 100%. For years, I built and raced dragsters and each engine cost what a half dozen or more of these tractors cost. The break in was done on a Dyno and took less than 30 minutes. We always ran a break in additive on the Dyno and then regular motor oil thereafter.I read this too, don’t remember where. It says that if the engine was not worked hard, or idled a lot the first 50, you could put break in oil back in for another 50. Yanmar has some of the best engines in the world made by some of the best and most precise equipment on earth. The tolerances are almost perfect on the engines. I doubt break in goes past a couple hours.
I too have seen break in oil debated many times. Funny how so many people say "I read somewhere" or "can't remember where". I'd like to see it where it says these motors are shipped with it and changing oil early you have to put break in oil back.This has been debated before. I would like to see some actual documentation. Got any links?
There has been confusion because of documents such as this one:PMB Product:I too have seen break in oil debated many times. Funny how so many people say "I read somewhere" or "can't remember where". I'd like to see it where it says these motors are shipped with it and changing oil early you have to put break in oil back.
Isn't there a difference between John Deere engines and Yanmar engines? John Deere = high hpThere has been confusion because of documents such as this one:PMB Product:
and this one:Understanding Engine Oil : Information about break-in oil, oil additives, recommended oil types, service intervals, and more.
This is a John Deere page that discusses kinds of oil they sell and talks about John Deere engines. I've seen other pages with similar language, but the wording is: "to be used in rebuilt or remanufactured engines and new John Deere engines during the initial break-in period." I also read a page earlier today that mentioned all rebuilt or remanufactured engines and new "John Deere Engines" come with break in oil. It doesn't say all Tractors. That same page then goes on to mention 5 series tractors at the end of the document. So the argument can be that it may apply to engines JD builds for themselves. Would a Yanmar engine apply? Then the argument goes on to say that nobody is exactly sure when oil is put into the Yanmar. At the Yanmar factory or at JD during assy. I cannot yet find anything that directly mentions the Yanmar in the small line of tractors, such a the 1025r, that spells out in black and white that it has break in oil at delivery. So should we just use the owners manual as gospel and change it at 200 hours regardless of time past? Change it once a year regardless of time? Do it at anytime from 50 to 200 hours? Another interesting note. I was surfing other manuals just for laughs and found some sort of funky looking JD mower. It appeared to have some sort of 3 cylinder Yanmar judging by the part number. It had you changing the oil at 10 hours. That didn't sound like it had break in oil. I also surfed and found a manual on a 3 banger Yanmar marine engine manual. All it said under maintenance was to change the oil at 50 hours. This is one of those endless debates that comes up every so often.