How about one more bad MMM setup story. Had JD service guy out twice to work on my new 1025r, including re-adjusting the deck. A week or so after the last visit I decided to take the deck off for cleaning, and it would not come off. Latches would not unlatch, finally had to use some "persuasion". Then the deck would not come off, finally had to use some "persuasion" on it.
Cleaned it underneath and then tried to re-install and it would not go on, would get about half way and then move with the tractor. Tried several times, always with same results. Finally got off the tractor and looked underneath, the left side looked OK with the pin about half way into the notch. Went around to the other side and looked, and the pin was completely above and riding on top of the notch.
I think it has been documented here that by design the left and right lift pins are different lengths when adjusted correctly, apparently my guy had made them the same length. I don't know how it was working as well as it was.
At this point I decided I would probably be better off to just bite the bullet and set it up myself. I read thru this entire thread (and many thanks to everyone who contributed to it) and got busy. The main thing I didn't understand at first was the strap adjustment between the mechanical and 3pt lift, having never even seen or heard of this strap. I could find nothing about this in my owner's manual, the mower deck manual had a little about adjusting the lift links but nothing about this strap. So thank goodness it was documented here, as this adjustment seems to be the key to most of the problems with this Mickey-Mouse setup.
I removed the rear wheel to get a look at this strap, and then saw that the gap between the height cam and the rock shaft was way too big in the lock position. I then remembered reading here also that some of these straps got installed backwards and guess what? Mine was one of them. So first thing I did was flip this over the right way, JD needs to stamp "This Side Out" on these.
The deck needs to be off to adjust this strap to get the correct gap between the height cam and the rock shaft, but then when the deck is back on I found that the weight of it will cause the gap to decrease quite a bit. I first set a loose 1/8" gap without the deck, but when it was back on the gap decreased to the point of being right on the edge, so that when raising and lowering the deck several times, sometimes the cam could be rotated to lock position, sometimes it couldn't due to the cam dragging on the rockshaft. So I started over, this time using a 1/4" screw as a guage to set the gap, then with the deck back on this would decrease to about 1/8" and allow the cam to rotate freely thru the lock position. This slightly loose gap makes a height difference of 1/4" from max lift to lock position, but I decided to quit while I was ahead and live with that.
From here was no problem adjusting the lift pins for max lift and then leveling. But after all this I was disappointed to find that this thing will only lift to 4" at max height. I went thru and checked several of the positions on the height knob using the JD guage, mine at lock is 3 3/4", H is approx. 3", M is < 1 1/2' (guage only goes down to 1 1/2 so couldn't measure from there down), so since I mow at 3" mine will be set on H and can only lift 1 inch above that, heckuvalot of headache for 1 inch of extra lift. :thumbsdown:
Cleaned it underneath and then tried to re-install and it would not go on, would get about half way and then move with the tractor. Tried several times, always with same results. Finally got off the tractor and looked underneath, the left side looked OK with the pin about half way into the notch. Went around to the other side and looked, and the pin was completely above and riding on top of the notch.
I think it has been documented here that by design the left and right lift pins are different lengths when adjusted correctly, apparently my guy had made them the same length. I don't know how it was working as well as it was.
At this point I decided I would probably be better off to just bite the bullet and set it up myself. I read thru this entire thread (and many thanks to everyone who contributed to it) and got busy. The main thing I didn't understand at first was the strap adjustment between the mechanical and 3pt lift, having never even seen or heard of this strap. I could find nothing about this in my owner's manual, the mower deck manual had a little about adjusting the lift links but nothing about this strap. So thank goodness it was documented here, as this adjustment seems to be the key to most of the problems with this Mickey-Mouse setup.
I removed the rear wheel to get a look at this strap, and then saw that the gap between the height cam and the rock shaft was way too big in the lock position. I then remembered reading here also that some of these straps got installed backwards and guess what? Mine was one of them. So first thing I did was flip this over the right way, JD needs to stamp "This Side Out" on these.
The deck needs to be off to adjust this strap to get the correct gap between the height cam and the rock shaft, but then when the deck is back on I found that the weight of it will cause the gap to decrease quite a bit. I first set a loose 1/8" gap without the deck, but when it was back on the gap decreased to the point of being right on the edge, so that when raising and lowering the deck several times, sometimes the cam could be rotated to lock position, sometimes it couldn't due to the cam dragging on the rockshaft. So I started over, this time using a 1/4" screw as a guage to set the gap, then with the deck back on this would decrease to about 1/8" and allow the cam to rotate freely thru the lock position. This slightly loose gap makes a height difference of 1/4" from max lift to lock position, but I decided to quit while I was ahead and live with that.
From here was no problem adjusting the lift pins for max lift and then leveling. But after all this I was disappointed to find that this thing will only lift to 4" at max height. I went thru and checked several of the positions on the height knob using the JD guage, mine at lock is 3 3/4", H is approx. 3", M is < 1 1/2' (guage only goes down to 1 1/2 so couldn't measure from there down), so since I mow at 3" mine will be set on H and can only lift 1 inch above that, heckuvalot of headache for 1 inch of extra lift. :thumbsdown: