How thick is your black smoke? My tractor does smoke under a load, but it's barely noticeable under the correct lighting conditions. You should never see smoke on a regular basis during any normal operation.
1026r exhaust
Hi just wondering if anyone has noticed the black exhaust smoke blowing on the blower and inside the front rim on the 1026r? Is there an exhaust kit to put on and make it into an upright exhaust stack like the bigger tractors?
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I Have been noticing a nice build up of black soot on the back of the fel support stand. Only have 17 hr on the machine.
I dont have a 1026 but I wash my 2305 often.
The left front frame and left brushguard bracket always have a film of black on them. I only see a little smoke on startup.
So I think its pretty normal. Seems they could have pointed the exhaust in a better spot !
The left front frame and left brushguard bracket always have a film of black on them. I only see a little smoke on startup.
So I think its pretty normal. Seems they could have pointed the exhaust in a better spot !
I have black soot staining on the lower left corner of the FEL parking stand, this is normal for a diesel engine. I also get a little puff of smoke on start up, :good2:normal as well.
The smoke is barely noticable, I just don't like the soot build up on the back of the blower. Was hoping they made a different exhaust pipe to point it in a different spot. ThanksHow thick is your black smoke? My tractor does smoke under a load, but it's barely noticeable under the correct lighting conditions. You should never see smoke on a regular basis during any normal operation.
Welcome to 1026 and 2305 ownership. Actually, even the 2000 series all exhaust here and I am with you, don't like it. I haven't come up with a good solution myself yet. I mostly notice it on the frame, body panel, and loader after awhile. For now I just clean it off with diesel fuel. My thought would be to redirect the pipe to aim the exhaust just behind the front wheel instead of between the wheel and the frame. Just haven't tried it yet.The smoke is barely noticable, I just don't like the soot build up on the back of the blower. Was hoping they made a different exhaust pipe to point it in a different spot. Thanks
I havn't noticed this yet, but havn't gotten to use the blower much. I have less than a hour on my snowblower & 15 on the 1026r. We dont get snow here in Green Bay.:laugh:
It's normal as everybody has written...
I haven't noticed any build up yet on the blower, but I haven't had much snow to blow, so.....:unknown:
I did notice that the exhaust on the 1026R seemed (to me anyway) to be angled better than that on my old 2320. I had the build up of soot on the blower and FEL stand and frame as others have described, on my 2320. I am hoping for better results with the 1026R, time will tell.
I did notice that the exhaust on the 1026R seemed (to me anyway) to be angled better than that on my old 2320. I had the build up of soot on the blower and FEL stand and frame as others have described, on my 2320. I am hoping for better results with the 1026R, time will tell.
It's better than you think!
My two cents worth
I'm my experience, that includes being a diesel electric submarine engineer with large generators as well as ships with smaller electrical generators, diesel driven fire pumps, prime movers and a myriad of small engines, I can tell you that during start up the engine will always puff a little smoke. This is normal and necessary. What occurs is the mechanical injection systems of virtually all diesels require a richer fuel to air ratio to permit the engine to start. Remember it's not a gasoline engine and there is no choke. A diesel will richen the mixture in response to a cold start device of some sort, whether it's a temperature related enrichment, cranking speed dependent or timed enrichment, the fact is that all diesels puff just a little on start up. This puff is largely unburned fuel and it's not a concern.
When an engine ages or a diesel injector wears, the black smoke becomes noticeable under heavy loads and this, amongst starting problems, can signal the need for injector or pump replacement/overhaul.
So my 1026r causes a little black soot build up on the loader parking stand. I clean it off once a month or so with a little brake cleaner spray and a rag. As quick as a flash and it's gone. No damage to the paint that I can tell just yet. You can re-route the exhaust but in my opinion it's fine where it is. The question you have to ask yourself, when re-routing the exhaust, is- where would you like your soot build-up sir? Consider that It's presently down low where you aren't breathing it in as much and it's as far away from your ears as possible so I would recommend leaving it.
As much as I hate to say it- because it drives me nuts to hear someone else say it - " that's normal, they're all like that" and my other favorite expression to hate - "nothing wrong with that".
On the upside, that yamnar is one great little engine!! It might not sound as cool as an ASR-1 submarine diesel engine chugging along with the screamers disengaged, but you have to admit, it's an intoxicating And cool little sound none the less!
Hopefully my little opinion makes you feel a little better about this. :hi:
Gord
My two cents worth
I'm my experience, that includes being a diesel electric submarine engineer with large generators as well as ships with smaller electrical generators, diesel driven fire pumps, prime movers and a myriad of small engines, I can tell you that during start up the engine will always puff a little smoke. This is normal and necessary. What occurs is the mechanical injection systems of virtually all diesels require a richer fuel to air ratio to permit the engine to start. Remember it's not a gasoline engine and there is no choke. A diesel will richen the mixture in response to a cold start device of some sort, whether it's a temperature related enrichment, cranking speed dependent or timed enrichment, the fact is that all diesels puff just a little on start up. This puff is largely unburned fuel and it's not a concern.
When an engine ages or a diesel injector wears, the black smoke becomes noticeable under heavy loads and this, amongst starting problems, can signal the need for injector or pump replacement/overhaul.
So my 1026r causes a little black soot build up on the loader parking stand. I clean it off once a month or so with a little brake cleaner spray and a rag. As quick as a flash and it's gone. No damage to the paint that I can tell just yet. You can re-route the exhaust but in my opinion it's fine where it is. The question you have to ask yourself, when re-routing the exhaust, is- where would you like your soot build-up sir? Consider that It's presently down low where you aren't breathing it in as much and it's as far away from your ears as possible so I would recommend leaving it.
As much as I hate to say it- because it drives me nuts to hear someone else say it - " that's normal, they're all like that" and my other favorite expression to hate - "nothing wrong with that".
On the upside, that yamnar is one great little engine!! It might not sound as cool as an ASR-1 submarine diesel engine chugging along with the screamers disengaged, but you have to admit, it's an intoxicating And cool little sound none the less!
Hopefully my little opinion makes you feel a little better about this. :hi:
Gord
Very good explanation....:thumbup1gif:My two cents worth
I'm my experience, that includes being a diesel electric submarine engineer with large generators as well as ships with smaller electrical generators, diesel driven fire pumps, prime movers and a myriad of small engines, I can tell you that during start up the engine will always puff a little smoke. This is normal and necessary. What occurs is the mechanical injection systems of virtually all diesels require a richer fuel to air ratio to permit the engine to start. Remember it's not a gasoline engine and there is no choke. A diesel will richen the mixture in response to a cold start device of some sort, whether it's a temperature related enrichment, cranking speed dependent or timed enrichment, the fact is that all diesels puff just a little on start up. This puff is largely unburned fuel and it's not a concern.
When an engine ages or a diesel injector wears, the black smoke becomes noticeable under heavy loads and this, amongst starting problems, can signal the need for injector or pump replacement/overhaul.
So my 1026r causes a little black soot build up on the loader parking stand. I clean it off once a month or so with a little brake cleaner spray and a rag. As quick as a flash and it's gone. No damage to the paint that I can tell just yet. You can re-route the exhaust but in my opinion it's fine where it is. The question you have to ask yourself, when re-routing the exhaust, is- where would you like your soot build-up sir? Consider that It's presently down low where you aren't breathing it in as much and it's as far away from your ears as possible so I would recommend leaving it.
As much as I hate to say it- because it drives me nuts to hear someone else say it - " that's normal, they're all like that" and my other favorite expression to hate - "nothing wrong with that".
On the upside, that yamnar is one great little engine!! It might not sound as cool as an ASR-1 submarine diesel engine chugging along with the screamers disengaged, but you have to admit, it's an intoxicating And cool little sound none the less!
Hopefully my little opinion makes you feel a little better about this. :hi:
Gord
I think your two cents is worth a little more like 2 solid gold coins. :hi:My two cents worth
I'm my experience, that includes being a diesel electric submarine engineer with large generators as well as ships with smaller electrical generators, diesel driven fire pumps, prime movers and a myriad of small engines,
:thumbup1gif:
I put about 30 hours sofar this winter blowing snow and the exhaust blowing on the back of the 54" blower melts the snow and I get a buildup of ice about 2" thick on the blower(both inside & outside). I found a 45* copper fitting that fit the inside the exhaust pipe and pointed it to the side. I used a small self tapping screw to hold it together. If i remember correctly I think it was a 45* 1 1/4 inside to outside adapter. Sorry no pictures. I blow 6 or 7 normal driveways and 3 long ones along with the dead end road that connects them, usually about 3 hours worth.
A Vertical Exhaust Idea
I have been reading these posts and threads with interest, as most of my loader work being on and off the tractor seemed to result in feeling like the exhaust was being directed right toward my face -- which it was many times. I also mow two lots so when traveling between was often getting a face full. On a lark, I remembered about Gen-Turi exhaust extenders for RVs, which are about $130.00, and ordered one. Mounting is a bit unconventional but in doing one snowblowing job and several mowings since installation, I've only gotten a hint of exhaust once. Huge difference! I have not yet full mounted the loader and had wondered about sufficient room on that, but in parking the tractor nested into the loader it does appear that it will clear. It is still experimental but may turn out to be a good, permanent solution. The nice thing is that the whole point of a Gen-Turi is to be able to remove it quickly, so it's no big deal to put it on and take it off. You can see it in this video that I made as a "review" for my Model 47 Snowblower chute control by Merit Automation:
I have been reading these posts and threads with interest, as most of my loader work being on and off the tractor seemed to result in feeling like the exhaust was being directed right toward my face -- which it was many times. I also mow two lots so when traveling between was often getting a face full. On a lark, I remembered about Gen-Turi exhaust extenders for RVs, which are about $130.00, and ordered one. Mounting is a bit unconventional but in doing one snowblowing job and several mowings since installation, I've only gotten a hint of exhaust once. Huge difference! I have not yet full mounted the loader and had wondered about sufficient room on that, but in parking the tractor nested into the loader it does appear that it will clear. It is still experimental but may turn out to be a good, permanent solution. The nice thing is that the whole point of a Gen-Turi is to be able to remove it quickly, so it's no big deal to put it on and take it off. You can see it in this video that I made as a "review" for my Model 47 Snowblower chute control by Merit Automation:
There is a thread somewhere about modifying the exhaust outlet . I myself bought a chrome motorcycle exhaust tip off ebay and modified it to fit my exhaust . Rolled out and up to clear tractor components . Working well so far .:bigthumb:
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