Green Tractor Talk banner

1 - 20 of 20 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
22,087 Posts
I guess they have to call it a “recall” being a safety issue but all it is in fact is an owner’s manual update. The fact that ballast must be used when using the loader is missing from the manual.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
11,428 Posts
I guess that's why some dealers were saying these new tractor/loader combinations no longer required ballast. After all, it wasn't in the manual. :)
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
1,698 Posts
Yeah it should just be a Manual recall not for the whole Piece of equipment. Deere is just sending Out a Manual Page Update to any who Purchased the 120R though the dealer and it Only Loaders sold May 2017 thru Sept 2017 and it Looks Like it the 120R Loader In general from the Deere PDF which is not specifying weather it a 120R on a 1 series or a 2025R . Deere is actually contacting the customer directly as well :bigthumb:
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
12,929 Posts
The recall is because information about using ballast wasn't in the manual?!
I guess they have to call it a “recall” being a safety issue but all it is in fact is an owner’s manual update. The fact that ballast must be used when using the loader is missing from the manual.
I'll have to look in my manual, don't recall seeing it though, seems it would be different than the 1025 where it would state amount of ballast w/loaded tires since I have twice as much weight in my loaded tires than my 1 series did.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
22,087 Posts
I'll have to look in my manual, don't recall seeing it though, seems it would be different than the 1025 where it would state amount of ballast w/loaded tires since I have twice as much weight in my loaded tires than my 1 series did.
Still need ballast with loaded tires - even with my 2520. Loaded tires aren’t actually ballast......

But with that said and while not trying to start a ballast war - with my loaded tires which I guess are around 250# a piece for light loader work it is fine. But I add ballast when doing any heavy work. Partially because of stability and partially for the front axle. Don’t want to end up like Big Jim did with his.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
12,929 Posts
Still need ballast with loaded tires - even with my 2520. Loaded tires aren’t actually ballast......

But with that said and while not trying to start a ballast war - with my loaded tires which I guess are around 250# a piece for light loader work it is fine. But I add ballast when doing any heavy work. Partially because of stability and partially for the front axle. Don’t want to end up like Big Jim did with his.
I know that Stan, I always ballast up when doing FEL work, my point was only that there is no differential between the two tractors, stating like 581lbs with loaded tires with a concrete filled ballast box. That # is for the 1 series, I have 320 lbs of liquid ballast in my rear tires compared to the 142 lbs I had in my 1 series. Rest assured I still use my 600 and something pound ballast box for almost ALL FEL work.

SAFETY FIRST
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
22,087 Posts
I know that Stan, I always ballast up when doing FEL work, my point was only that there is no differential between the two tractors, stating like 581lbs with loaded tires with a concrete filled ballast box. That # is for the 1 series, I have 320 lbs of liquid ballast in my rear tires compared to the 142 lbs I had in my 1 series. Rest assured I still use my 600 and something pound ballast box for almost ALL FEL work.

SAFETY FIRST
I can I imagine you feel much more stable with just the extra weight of the ballast in the bigger tires.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
12,929 Posts
I can I imagine you feel much more stable with just the extra weight of the ballast in the bigger tires.
Absolutely, I was afraid this tractor would feel tippy, but it's just the opposite, even out in the field it actually feels more stable than my 1 series did, and that's a good thing because soon I'll be cutting the pastures. There are some very steep sections that test the pucker factor, I certainly don't mow across the hills but I still have to turn around at the bottom, and that can get a little hairy.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
22,087 Posts
Absolutely, I was afraid this tractor would feel tippy, but it's just the opposite, even out in the field it actually feels more stable than my 1 series did, and that's a good thing because soon I'll be cutting the pastures. There are some very steep sections that test the pucker factor.
I remember my first ride with my 2520 after coming from my 2210. First time on a side hill I stopped - it felt really tippy. But here to figure out it was just because I was sitting so much higher. Once I got used to that fact I found the 2520 to be much more stable.

One huge thing for me is tire size on hills. With the smaller tires, any small depression is exaggerated due to the smaller tire going down into these depressions where the larger tire just stays above.

When I look at a 3 series, to me it looks tippy compared to my 2 series but I imagine the same rules of physics would still apply.
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
12,929 Posts

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
11,428 Posts
I have 320 lbs of liquid ballast in my rear tires compared to the 142 lbs I had in my 1 series.
What are you using in your tires?
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
4,974 Posts
Just as an "FYI" for all:

I merged the two separate threads on this topic and relocated it to the "Implements" forum since the topic applies to an implement that is used on two different series machines. This is just some very minor housekeeping so we can keep all the info on this recall in one place and users will be able to find it.

:good2:

Carry on!
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8,504 Posts
Well, I got my Official Recall Letter on the 120R recall yesterday in the mail.....

I am to "Stop using the loader immediately and contact the Dealer for a free correction of the operators manual"..................

Of course, they could just send the page out to those impacted by this "recall"..........

The manual fails to state that "The minimum rear ballast is fluid filled tires, PLUS 54KG (119 lb) wheel weights, PLUS 374KG (825 lb) rear hitch ballast'"

Note, the weight is expressed in KG primarily and the pounds were in brackets just as I wrote it........I will have to look to see if the rest of the manual is written with Metric weights as the primary expressed weight and pounds as secondary.......

and of course, I don't even OWN the 2025R about which this recall is based.........But I still got the letter. It says my FEL is in the "Recall Group" based upon VIN numbers. Also, just in case one would have trouble identifying their 120R loader, "The recalled loaders are mostly green with Yellow accents".....

OH, THAT Front End loader......The Green one with Yellow Accents...Now I got it..............:laugh::lol::lolol:

Wait a minute.....Maybe this means that the dealer actually owes me a 2025R tractor.......After all, I got the letter saying my loader VIN number is attached to a 2025r.

I will contact Ryan and mention it to him. I want to follow up with him anyways as he has doctors appointments with specialists to see if they can figure out why he had an "A Fib" incident on Saturday which required him to be taken the the ER and they ended up shocking his heart to get it back in rhythm. Hopefully, it's a one time incident and nothing more. :good2:
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
7,593 Posts
Well, I got my Official Recall Letter on the 120R recall yesterday in the mail.....

I am to "Stop using the loader immediately and contact the Dealer for a free correction of the operators manual"..................

Of course, they could just send the page out to those impacted by this "recall"..........

and of course, I don't even OWN the 2025R about which this recall is based.........But I still got the letter. It says my FEL is in the "Recall Group" based upon VIN numbers. Also, just in case one would have trouble identifying their 120R loader, "The recalled loaders are mostly green with Yellow accents".....

OH, THAT Front End loader......The Green one with Yellow Accents...Now I got it..............:laugh::lol::lolol:

Wait a minute.....Maybe this means that the dealer actually owes me a 2025R tractor.......After all, I got the letter saying my loader VIN number is attached to a 2025r.

I will contact Ryan and mention it to him. I want to follow up with him anyways as he has doctors appointments with specialists to see if they can figure out why he had an "A Fib" incident on Saturday which required him to be taken the the ER and they ended up shocking his heart to get it back in rhythm. Hopefully, it's a one time incident and nothing more. :good2:
Their lawyers also wanted them to say it's the thing on the front of the tractor that goes up and down :mocking:

Maybe the dealership is missing a 2025r and now you and Ryan are the chief suspects. :laugh:

Seriously, I hope all is well with Ryan :good2:
 

·
Premium Member
Joined
·
11,428 Posts
Wait a minute.....Maybe this means that the dealer actually owes me a 2025R tractor.......After all, I got the letter saying my loader VIN number is attached to a 2025r.

I will contact Ryan and mention it to him. I want to follow up with him anyways as he has doctors appointments with specialists to see if they can figure out why he had an "A Fib" incident on Saturday which required him to be taken the the ER and they ended up shocking his heart to get it back in rhythm. Hopefully, it's a one time incident and nothing more. :good2:
There is another thread on here on the same subject. There are 2038R owners who received the same notice. It seems JD is sending out the notices to all 120R/220R loaders as they've actually increased the ballast requirements on both models.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
8,504 Posts
Their lawyers also wanted them to say it's the thing on the front of the tractor that goes up and down :mocking:

Maybe the dealership is missing a 2025r and now you and Ryan are the chief suspects. :laugh:

Seriously, I hope all is well with Ryan :good2:
I called him yesterday to check on him and left a voicemail and he called me back. He still has far more questions than answers about what happened and why. He does have appointments today and later this week with Cardiology specialists in Indiana who can hopefully give him some answers. He mentioned that his heart was at 220 beats per minute at times during the episode on Saturday, which is extremely high.

He also told me that Saturday was his son's birthday and Friday was Ryan and his wife's anniversary. They had gone out to dinner at a very nice restaurant on Friday night, only to awaken Saturday to deal with this issue when they thought the day was going to be full of birthday party and other scheduled events for their son.

I will remind Ryan to tell me where he put my 2025R, since I haven't seen it........:mocking:
 
1 - 20 of 20 Posts
Top