[Westtexus]

Hi, new member. I bought this tractor 4 days ago. The pto is always turning when the tractor is running. The lever that controls it doesn't seem to be connected to anything. It just lays on the left side footboard. Previous owner said it was working, but something went wrong while he was mowing. Anyone have any knowledge about this problem?

 

[farmer52]

I am no help. Doesn't sound right for the lever to do "nothing". Look at the parts catalog PC689 at JDParts.com and perhaps you can see what might be the issue.

https://partscatalog.deere.com/jdrc/navigation/equipment/82370

You can download the OM here: Search for Equipment Publications - Technical Information Store
2010 Row-Crop Utility
Guessing you want OMT18596

 

[Westtexus]

I found this, but can't really see where the trouble would be.

 

[Sevenhills1952]

It may be like an international farmall we had. The pto (all ptos) are splined. The farmall had an engagement lever under the seat. Lever had a fork other end that moved a collar back and forth. Basically like a clutch fork. Lever back the fork moved a splined sleeve forward which disengaged pto. Lever forward and sleeve coupled pto to transmission shaft.
If you take it apart you should see problem. My guess is fork broke so pto stays engaged.

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[Westtexus]

Right now we are having winter weather, heavy snow expected. So in 2 or 3 days I'll look at the parts you described. My problem is I would like to be able to get parts so I can take it apart, repair, and put together, and not leave it apart waiting for parts.

 

[farmer52]

Is there a top or side cover you can remove to look inside? Repair parts may or may not be available. The 2010 is about 60 years old.

 

[Westtexus]

I honestly don't know. I haven't had time to do much with it. I don't know if it does or not. I don't know if it has oil I need to drain for inspection. Main reason for this thread is to learn all I can. Pto turns, so I'm assuming that the problem is confined to engaging and disengaging.

 

[DRobinson]

It could be as simple as the pin on the shaft at the bottom of the lever is broken. The 2010 was not JD'a best effort in tractor building. It has been a long time, but my guess is that you will have to remove the rockshaft housing in order to see the linkage from the bottom of the lever to the rest of the linkage. If the owner is correct that it worked and then just quit, it is probably something simple, but not easy to get out. If you can get a John Deere technical manual, it will help you immensely with this repair and future repairs.

If Tex Jim sees your post he may have a better idea.

 

[Westtexus]

I have seen utube videos on removing rockshaft cover. But nothing on trouble shooting or diagnostic. Hopefully it is something simple, and won't take a long time to get parts. I have researched a little, the 2010 seems to have had it's problems. I also read most problems were corrected by 1963. Right now that seems to be the only big problem. It has been converted to alternator, and negative ground. New battery, fresh plugs, wires, dist cap and rotor. Gauges installed, oil pressure gauge leaking. Hydraulics are strong. Bucket doesn't have Hydraulics, manual dump, power steering. Needs lever knobs, lights, fuel gauge.

 

[DRobinson]

If I'm not mistaken, the tractors above serial number 42000 were much improved over the first ones. On the shift lever quadrant, are the gears 1-2, 3-4, 5-6, 7-8 or 1-3, 2-5, 4-7, 6-8? I believe that changed at serial number 42000 also.

When I suggested getting a Tech Manual, make sure you get a John Deere manual and not one published by some other publisher.

 

[Westtexus]

I'm a long way from 42000, so earlier model. In addition to other things mentioned it needs shifter decals.

 

[Westtexus]

 

[flyweight]

Scroll down to the 2010 videos.
Click here.

 

[flyweight]

When you remove the rockshaft, check to see if the pin(#5) is broken or missing.

 

[Westtexus]

I ha already seen those videos. Very helpful, I believe I can handle the repair. Looks like I will have to take it apart and look. Then wait for parts. I was hoping to avoid having it open for a while.

 

[Tx Jim]

I remember back when I was employed at JD dealership('65-'87) one of the dealer technicians referred to 2010 rockshaft(3pt) & pto controls as resembling the pieces in "a toy Erector set". I suggest when rockshaft is removed to check operation of item 22.

 

[Westtexus]

Well, the previous owner gave me an owner's manual and a shop repair manual. I looked them over a little. Found picture of shift pattern, if I can get decal that would be great, otherwise sharpie or memory! It looks like I will have to remove rockshafte cover and look for what is wrong. Played with it a little, bolted on left part of bucket, then wintery mix came in.

 

[Tx Jim]

Shift pattern decal from JD if still available is part # T16187

 

[farmer52]

The shift pattern label is T16187 (subs for T14636) and shows as being available from Deere for $17. Check with your dealer to confirm availability.

 

[Westtexus]

The shift pattern label is T16187 (subs for T14636) and shows as being available from Deere for $17. Check with your dealer to confirm availability.

Thanks!