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Well, I recently jumped in and bought an X738 and am awaiting delivery (hopefully this week!). My very first GT, so I am excited to get it.

The first project will be to level the ground for a 20 x 40 barn to store everything in. Only problem is that I have never, ever done anything like this before. But, I think I can get it done
with my new X738, front blade/tractor shovel, and a box blade. Am I nuts for thinking that?

Will post picture of site before I start, and share details as it goes.

Life is grand when you can play in the dirt!
(or so I have been told!)



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Well, I recently jumped in and bought an X738 and am awaiting delivery (hopefully this week!). My very first GT, so I am excited to get it.

The first project will be to level the ground for a 20 x 40 barn to store everything in. Only problem is that I have never, ever done anything like this before. But, I think I can get it done
with my new X738, front blade/tractor shovel, and a box blade. Am I nuts for thinking that?

Will post picture of site before I start, and share details as it goes.

Life is grand when you can play in the dirt!
(or so I have been told!)



Mark
It all depends on your soil and how much dirt you need to move around. Not having a FEL will make things a challenge. You will find the box blade is probably more useful. If this is your only dirt project you are probably fine to get the X738 but if you plan on doing more traditional tractor tasks, you may want to change that order from a X738 to a 1 series. :greentractorride:
 

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It all depends on your soil and how much dirt you need to move around. Not having a FEL will make things a challenge. You will find the box blade is probably more useful. If this is your only dirt project you are probably fine to get the X738 but if you plan on doing more traditional tractor tasks, you may want to change that order from a X738 to a 1 series. :greentractorride:


Appreciate your comments, however, since 95% of my use will be mowing/snow removal/spraying the x738 is enough tractor for the job. I just won't be able to move as much as fast as a 1 series. But, the x738 should be more than capable to handle anything on my 4.1 acres. Plus, I do have the front blade with tractor shovel attachment. So, I am not totally unarmed. LOL
 

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Speed tends to become a big requirement. I have built two shops in my life. Both were clear span metal buildings. The first one was a 30x40 shop down in Texas and the only piece of equipment I had was a JD 400 GT which is the same size as your X738. It had a FEL on it and I had a box blade. It was not enough tractor to clear the dirt on the Texas shale of Tarrant county. Plus it was of limited use to move around the columns, girts, and purlins for the shop. It did it but very slowly since it could only pick up 1 or 2 at a time. I could have save a lot of time with a bigger tractor.

I built a 40x50 shop here in NC last summer but this time I had a 3025E. I left the dirt leveling to the concrete guy since he had a skid steer but the tractor came in extremely handy to move around the materials for the shop. I still ended up having to rent a rough terrain genie fork in order to get the materials up high but the tractor did save me a bunch of time and money.

Good luck with the project. Two things I have learned from my shop projects; First, if it becomes difficult then there is either a tool you are not using to help make it easier or you are short on man power. Second, it's really easy to over think these things if you don't have a lot of experience doing this type of work. :bigbeer:
 

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I am currently scraping off the topsoil for my 30 x 48 shop to be built as soon as the weather warms up. I am using my 1023e with the loader and grader blade right now and it is working okay. I need to dig down another 6-8 inches to build it up with compaction gravel but the ground is just too frozen here in Northern Indiana. A bigger piece of equipment would do better I am sure as I am thinking of borrowing the family farms skid steer but I just want to prove the little 1023e can do it. I am stubborn like that. :dunno:

I also just purchased a middle buster to hopefully till some of the soil before I use the loader on it.

Either way I think with a little ingenuity and patience anything can be accomplished. Share pics so we can see the progress!
 

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Site decision

Well, went out and staked off the area I would like to put the barn in.

Using stakes, string, and a line level, it looks like:

East side drops 1”
North side drops 5”
West side drops 3”
South side drops 6”


My question is.... how much of that can be handled after construction when I put in the gravel floor?
 

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Well, went out and staked off the area I would like to put the barn in.

Using stakes, string, and a line level, it looks like:

East side drops 1”
North side drops 5”
West side drops 3”
South side drops 6”


My question is.... how much of that can be handled after construction when I put in the gravel floor?

I would think that it is not a problem for the gravel to take up the elevation change. I will say my contractor has asked me to install the gravel before construction and get it pretty close to level. Then when the pole building is up, compact the gravel so concrete will be poured.
 

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I would think that it is not a problem for the gravel to take up the elevation change. I will say my contractor has asked me to install the gravel before construction and get it pretty close to level. Then when the pole building is up, compact the gravel so concrete will be poured.[/QUOTE]



1023easy, I will ask the contractor about it today and see what he says. I am not doing a concrete floor so hadn’t thought about doing the limestone crusher first. Was going to remove top soil and level that. Your point makes sense to me.
 

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I am currently scraping off the topsoil for my 30 x 48 shop to be built as soon as the weather warms up. I am using my 1023e with the loader and grader blade right now and it is working okay. I need to dig down another 6-8 inches to build it up with compaction gravel but the ground is just too frozen here in Northern Indiana. A bigger piece of equipment would do better I am sure as I am thinking of borrowing the family farms skid steer but I just want to prove the little 1023e can do it. I am stubborn like that.


I also just purchased a middle buster to hopefully till some of the soil before I use the loader on it.

Either way I think with a little ingenuity and patience anything can be accomplished. Share pics so we can see the progress!

Yeah, guess I’m stubborn too, I think the x738 should be enough. Just have to go slower and move less dirt at a time. Or at least in theory....
 

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Update on my barn site prep

Well, waiting for contractor to come out and take a look at the site before I start doing anything. He said he would be out next week, so I will wait. It is a little easier to wait since my tractor hasn't been delivered yet. But, that happens this Sunday, so its about to become pretty irresistible !
 

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Met with the contractor building my pole barn.
The site has been approved by him. He said he will start in 2-3 weeks if the Ohio weather ever stops raining!
 

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Sounds like your site is pretty level. You'll want to scrape off the topsoil then add gravel and compact it before you start building. That will keep the interior from sinking later and keep the workers from constantly working in mud. You know once the rain stops and it dries out some.:banghead:
 

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mdavenport Just In case You decide You Might need a Loader or a slip Bucket That is suited for excavating Here are a few That will fit Your X738

Loaders & Slip Buckets
2013 John deere x ultimate
Front end loaders for John Deere tractors | Little Buck Loader
Johnny Bucket Sr. John Deere 300-400 series
Buford Bucket https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VddFhJdfhpA


Sergeant, I have been looking at those and wondering if they are worth the extra cost? I have the tractor shovel attachment to the 54” front blade and am not sure the FEL would do enough more for me. Thoughts?
 

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Sounds like your site is pretty level. You'll want to scrape off the topsoil then add gravel and compact it before you start building. That will keep the interior from sinking later and keep the workers from constantly working in mud. You know once the rain stops and it dries out some.

Yes! Mother Nature is being a real witch this year!
 

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And then this happened today....

Contractor started my barn today. Now if Mother Nature would cooperate a little bit!
 

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Progress - but looks like I made a bad rookie mistake. I used a string level and thought I had it within 8” of grade all the way around. Apparently not. As you can see in the picture, I have a 12” gap below grade of building on right side and front right corner.

I was planning on backfilling a crusher run floor, but, now I’m not sure if I need to do anything else first. Fill dirt?

Should I put some type of retainer wall, or just let the inside gravel become the outside grading?

Appreciate any guidance as I’m definitely a novice at all this.
 

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