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I read on another forum that FMC put prototype trucks with aluminum boxes into contactor's hands well over a year ago to see how they would hold up. With the same thickness of aluminum as the steel used the results were not good, so thicker aluminum was used on a second round of test trucks. The results of that test shows they wanted 30% stronger boxes than the old steel boxes.

FMC's market share on trucks is suffering. I look for there to be a huge amount of F-150 and Super Duty commercials in 2015.

Having driven Ford pickups for over 35 years, I really like SON's brand new '14 RAM 2500 CTD 4-door 4x4 pickup. If I got a new truck, I'd get a new RAM too!
 

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When shutting the door on the 15 F150 there is zero reverberation through the exterior skin as on steel skinned models. Seem very solid. I'm sure the aluminum body's will go over well for most. They must have done something right to be the best selling truck for so many years.


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Glad they seemed to have fixed that reverberation. That is always something that bothered me on my dad's 2012 F150 crew cab. My grandfather's 2013 Silverado crew cab doesn't do that. I am not loyal to any brand, neither is my grandfather. My dad has never owned anything but Ford's in my 38 years. So I always make sure I point out the reverberation and tell him grand dad's doesn't do that.


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Son's old '06 F150 SuperCab didn't reverberate unless you really slammed the doors. But no matter how hard you slammed the rear doors the front doors never seemed to completely latch into the rear doors.

Plus when it needed $500+ in parts to fix one side of FMC's Shift-on-the-Fly 4wd with only 64,000 miles on it, it was time to send it down the pike before something else wore out.

I can't remember what years they were or exactly how many there were, but there's been several years when Chevy and GMC combined sold more trucks than Ford did, but Ford sold more than Chevy so they're best selling string was left in tact. But As I said before, Ford's market share is slipping. GM's is growing a little and RAM's is growing a LOT! I guess word about FMC declining warranty on parts like high pressure fuel pumps, radiators, etc is spreading.
 

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The worst thing I've seen that would send someone running from Ford is the 6.0 Powerstroke. With that said there isn't one manufacturer that doesn't have issues of some sort. I don't think anyone builds a bad truck. Pick the one that floats your boat.


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I don't know what all the fuss is over the use of aluminum in pickups. After all heavy duty (Class 8) trucks have used aluminum in their cabs and frames for decades. Ravens has used aluminum in their trailers since at least the 70's. Ravens By Kruz Aluminum Dump Trailers and Bodies also Kruz Steel Dump Trailers and Bodies - Kruz Inc. Aircraft have used aluminum in their construction since before WW2.

Although the steel used in modern car bodies has a high tensile strength compared to the steels of yesteryear; the stuff is pop can thin. I'd rather have thicker aluminum and lighter weight that resists dents better than pop can thin, yet heavier steel because that's how its always been done.

Ford is going with aluminum on the F-150 to get the MPG up and a 700-pound weight saving is significant. If the F-150 proves successful; then you can bet Ford will expand the use of aluminum in spite of its higher cost to meet the ever increasing EPA CAFE requirements. It's a safe bet that other manufacturers will eventually follow suit.

There are only so many BTU's in a gallon of gas or diesel, and all the easy tricks to improve mileage have been incorporated into vehicles. Now the engineers have to get creative to squeeze even more blood out of a turnip.
 

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I don't know what all the fuss is over the use of aluminum in pickups. After all heavy duty (Class 8) trucks have used aluminum in their cabs and frames for decades. Ravens has used aluminum in their trailers since at least the 70's. Ravens By Kruz Aluminum Dump Trailers and Bodies also Kruz Steel Dump Trailers and Bodies - Kruz Inc. Aircraft have used aluminum in their construction since before WW2.

Although the steel used in modern car bodies has a high tensile strength compared to the steels of yesteryear; the stuff is pop can thin. I'd rather have thicker aluminum and lighter weight that resists dents better than pop can thin, yet heavier steel because that's how its always been done.

Ford is going with aluminum on the F-150 to get the MPG up and a 700-pound weight saving is significant. If the F-150 proves successful; then you can bet Ford will expand the use of aluminum in spite of its higher cost to meet the ever increasing EPA CAFE requirements. It's a safe bet that other manufacturers will eventually follow suit.

There are only so many BTU's in a gallon of gas or diesel, and all the easy tricks to improve mileage have been incorporated into vehicles. Now the engineers have to get creative to squeeze even more blood out of a turnip.
Aluminum = lighter weight. For the commercial trucking industry lighter weight = more payload. For the passenger car and light truck market lighter weight = more MPG because these vehicles are primarily operated near empty. In a previous life I did some work with Kenworth Truck and Ravens, East Manufacturing and MAC Trailers at manufacturing plants in Ohio. All utilized aluminum in their Class 8 trucks or flatbed & dump trailers.
 

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There are only so many BTU's in a gallon of gas or diesel, and all the easy tricks to improve mileage have been incorporated into vehicles. Now the engineers have to get creative to squeeze even more blood out of a turnip.
The manufacturers still have some tricks up their sleeves they just can't let them all out of the bag at once. With the government regulations ever increasing the manufacturers have to hold back so that they are always making gains.

My brother has a '12 Ford F150 ecoboost 4wd crewcab for his company truck.He caries a 130 gallon diesel tank in the bed and is always loaded with other tools. Truck got about 15 mpg until he got it tuned. Now the truck gets a consistent 17 mpg and still passes emmissions. These are hand calculated figures.

So if some third party can squeeze an extra 2 mpg out of a vehicle you know the manufacturers are holding back waiting on the next regulation to kick in.

Of course I firmly believe the gubment is doing their best to curtail any major gains in fuel mileage but that is a discussion for another thread in another section
 

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I've always been a dodge truck guy but as a Ford stockholder I'm hoping this will be a great success for them. I really like how Ford has turned themselves around as a company in the last few years. My next truck might even be a Ford!
 

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I've always been a dodge truck guy but as a Ford stockholder I'm hoping this will be a great success for them. I really like how Ford has turned themselves around as a company in the last few years. My next truck might even be a Ford!
There's a lot going on at Ford now. New F150, Mustang, Raptor, Shelby GT350R, new GT and more to come!!
 
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