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Was looking at my new tractor because all I can do is look at it at this point here in Central New York. Not even enough snow to snow-blow!!! Anyways I lifted my seat and noticed two rubber seat springs as they call them which don't look like springs at all! They just look like rubber bump stops. It looks like you can slide them in a track forward and backward. Is this an adjustment to change the stiffness of the seat. My manual has no mention of it. Do they make a coil spring you could replace the rubber one with?
 

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I'm assuming you have two rubber gizmos like shown below? Yes, you slide them forward backward depending on if you want a stiff ride or a really stiff ride. They have been using these on 2-series for years. They say they are rubber but they feel more like a hockey puck.

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There are spring replacements available. KBOGH has some.

Go here: about half way down the page. http://www.boltonhooks.com/jd1series.html

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Is this an adjustment to change the stiffness of the seat. My manual has no mention of it.
In theory, yes but you won't really feel a difference. See my reply to JG for your other question.
 
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Does anyone know if Kenny's springs will fit a 3032E? It uses the same rubber pucks. I can't tell a difference no matter what position they're in.
 
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Does anyone know if Kenny's springs will fit a 3032E? It uses the same rubber pucks. I can't tell a difference no matter what position they're in.
LOL see above two replies.
 
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Was looking at my new tractor because all I can do is look at it at this point here in Central New York. Not even enough snow to snow-blow!!! Anyways I lifted my seat and noticed two rubber seat springs as they call them which don't look like springs at all! They just look like rubber bump stops. It looks like you can slide them in a track forward and backward. Is this an adjustment to change the stiffness of the seat. My manual has no mention of it. Do they make a coil spring you could replace the rubber one with?
The only thing i noticed they do is give you more or less "lean" in the seat, all the way forward and you can really pimp around the yard. :lol:
 
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JG, our springs will not work on the 1023e (or any other machine that has them-and there are many) to replace the rubber bumpers. We searched and prototyped tirelessly to find a good solution but nothing ever worked out.
Thanks Kennyd, Maybe I will see if I can come up with something for 1023e. I worked in a fabricating, machine shop for 43yrs...., I'll have to think about it for awhile.
 

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JG, our springs will not work on the 1023e (or any other machine that has them-and there are many) to replace the rubber bumpers. We searched and prototyped tirelessly to find a good solution but nothing ever worked out.
Ugh! Sorry Kenny... my bad. I should have read more carefully. The hard rubber bumpers on my 2720 seat must have caused some brain damage. :)
 

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Thanks Kennyd, Maybe I will see if I can come up with something for 1023e. I worked in a fabricating, machine shop for 43yrs...., I'll have to think about it for awhile.
I'd be up for payin' for some kind of a softer ride on the 23 if you can figure something out.. The seat on the 25 apparently can be modded to work on the 23 but I've read enough complaints about the comfort of the 25 seat as well that I doubt the cost is worth it. I will say after 4 years with my 23 that the rubber "springs" do soften up a bit over time. The springs are noticeably softer now than when it was new. However. I do feel that with the cost of these machines. That JD should include 2 or 3 interchangeable pairs of springs with every new machine in various soft to firm options that a user can swap to. What are we talkin' $10 max added to the price of a new tractor if any?.. Regardless of whatever "ideal" weight range the rubber springs were designed for. A 300 pounder can't possibly be comfortable on springs for a 180 pounder and vice versa. C'mon JD. This is a no brainer for customer satisfaction. At the very least. Offer them for sale as a separate add on buyers can choose.
 
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I'd be up for payin' for some kind of a softer ride on the 23 if you can figure something out.. The seat on the 25 apparently can be modded to work on the 23 but I've read enough complaints about the comfort of the 25 seat as well that I doubt the cost is worth it. I will say after 4 years with my 23 that the rubber "springs" do soften up a bit over time. The springs are noticeably softer now than when it was new. However. I do feel that with the cost of these machines. That JD should include 2 or 3 interchangeable pairs of springs with every new machine in various soft to firm options that a user can swap to. What are we talkin' $10 max added to the price of a new tractor if any?.. Regardless of whatever "ideal" weight range the rubber springs were designed for. A 300 pounder can't possibly be comfortable on springs for a 180 pounder and vice versa. C'mon JD. This is a no brainer for customer satisfaction. At the very least. Offer them for sale as a separate add on buyers can choose.
When I bought my 1023 my dealer put a x5xx seat on it, ironically that became the exact seat the new large frame 2R’s use stock .
 
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When I bought my 1023 my dealer put a x5xx seat on it, ironically that became the exact seat the new large frame 2R’s use stock .
Just curious. Do you mean a seat from a newer X500 lawn tractor? If so, those are nothing like a new 2-series seat. The X500 complete seat costs $169 whereas the 2R seat cushion alone is $742.

The seats on the garden tractors are nothing like the seats used on the compact tractors, although the 1023e seat appears to be almost identical with the same base. I have a X500 and the seat material is very thin and tore after less than 2 years. I doubt the warranty replacement will last much longer. Check Craigslist some time. 80% of the seats on newer X-series are cracked and torn. Whereas the seat on my 2720 is much heavier vinyl and shows no signs of fatigue so far.
 
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Just curious. Do you mean a seat from a newer X500 lawn tractor? If so, those are nothing like a new 2-series seat. The X500 complete seat costs $169 whereas the 2R seat cushion alone is $742.

The seats on the garden tractors are nothing like the seats used on the compact tractors. I have a X500 and the seat material is very thin and tore after less than 2 years. I doubt the warranty replacement will last much longer. Check Craigslist some time. 80% of the seats on newer X-series are cracked and torn. Whereas the seat on my 2720 is much heavier vinyl and shows no signs of fatigue so far.
It was an x something seat, that I do remember, and I’ve looked at the 2038 and it has the same seat as my 1023.
 

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It was an x something seat, that I do remember, and I’ve looked at the 2038 and it has the same seat as my 1023.
Interesting...

This is what I was going by in JD Parts. If they somehow retrofitted a 2038R seat you got a very good deal.

X500 Seat
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1023E Seat
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2038R Seat
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On my 1023E the entire seat was bad news for back support. Seat time being important to so many, well gotta be comfortable.

I replaced the seat with this I found on the interweb for about 75 bucks.

The old seat is now on my grandson’s go cart.
 

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On my 1023E the entire seat was bad news for back support. Seat time being important to so many, well gotta be comfortable.

I replaced the seat with this I found on the interweb for about 75 bucks.

The old seat is now on my grandson’s go cart.
That's a nice looking seat!
 

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Hi guys!

I'm relatively new to the forum here, I am a John Deere parts Specialists working for a dealer for about 5 years now. The pucks you're speaking on are simply for stopping the seat from hitting the metal seat frame, they are not adjustments. That is one of the areas Jhon Deere changed to bring the price of the 1025R down, as a result we got the 1023e and the cheeper seat.
 
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