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Hi I recently purchased a 2021 1025R TLB, 60D mower and a TKV collection system. I had the tractor equipped with the new Versa Turf tires too.

I took delivery of the TLB early without the deck installed - my dealer was extremely busy. I used the tractor to dive into a major project at my home. The tractor preformed flawlessly!! The Versa Turn tires provided traction without destroying the rest of my yard.

Here‘s the problem - the dealer now has time to install my deck but says they cannot install the 60D with the Versa Turf tires. There are numerous YouTube videos of 1025R 60D with Versa Turfs installed, all running flawlessly!!

Has anyone run into this?? They want to take my nice tire and give me something I don’t want!! Help would be greatly appreciated!!

Thank you!!
 

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Sounds like bull ..... to me. Ive seen many with that combination myself
 
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Thank you I have as well!! I agree sounds like total BS!
is there anyone that had any trouble with this combination??
 

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I put my VersaTurf's on a week after I took delivery. The 54D was already installed and works just fine with them. Ask them why it can't be done... I'd love to hear the reason.
 

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They are saying the concern is specifically with the 60D. There are several YouTube video personalities running the 1025R 60D and Versa Turf tires. I’ve sent my sale rep multiple links with 1025Rs operating with 60D deck on them. It’s service that’s having a baby fit! They say no...Per Deere. Idk??
 

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They are saying the concern is specifically with the 60D.
Still makes no sense as the 2 decks use the same lift linkage.

They say no...Per Deere. Idk??
Tell them to show that in writing.

They sell the tractor with the tires and there's no mention of any incompatibility. Someone is trying to pull a fast one me thinks...
 

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If they've never set up a tractor with those tires and deck, how do they know it won't work? That'd be my question face to face with the service manager.
 
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I had two dealers quoting me and working with me on things when I was shopping for tractors and both were willing to put versa turfs on my 2021 1025r with my 60D deck.

Granted the one I didn't end up buying from said they didn't do that but had a local tire shop do them. The other said they would do it but they wouldn't be able to get the tires for 4 to 5 months so I stuck with the r4's. I haven't been displeased with the r4's yet. Ive been thru most of the winter with them as well as done a ton of work already including mowing my property and the only thing I have found that mowing is where I wish I had them. They do okay, but I think the versa turfs would do so much better than the r4's with mowing.
 

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I'd just tell them, firmly but politely, to do it anyway. And mention that they will have no responsibility in the matter if it doesn't fit i.e. you will pay the labor to correct the situation if indeed you need different tires installed.
 

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The rear tires on the Versa Turfs are a little larger in diameter than the R4's. I had the two sitting side by side (the R4's and the Versa Turf's mounted) and the Versa Turfs were maybe 1/2" taller when mounted and inflated. Does your tractor have the after market rear wheel spacers on it?

That can certainly cause fitment issues with the 60" deck as getting the tires mounted out further from the machine create clearance issues with the wheels on the mower deck. That is a well known fitment issue. I wonder if that's what the dealer service department is referring to in their comments.

If your machine has after market rear wheel spacers, I can see there being an issue between the larger diameter of the Versa turfs and also having them spaced further apart. But the Versa Turf's alone shouldn't create an issue alone.

I run my Versa Turfs at a lower inflation, which helped reduce their center of the tire height, but that's not why I run them at a lower pressure. I do it for the ride and traction. I don't think the Versa turfs were more than 1/2" taller than the R4's and its really a little more of the R4's being flat across the tread and the Versa Turfs being more "raised in the center" of the tire when up at max pressure.

One last thing, are your tires actually the Carlyle Brand Versa Turfs? I am wondering if there are alternate makers of the tires out there (after all, the demand is staggering for these tires) and perhaps the alternate brands are made slightly differently.

I can't come up with a single logical reason for the dealer's service department to "make this up" as what do they stand to gain? Either way, they are going to be installing the mower deck. It's not like they are going to benefit from swapping the tires out to the R4's.

I think it would be a good idea to double check your tires and make sure they are made by Carlyle and that they are the Versa Turfs. I don't know of alternate sources of that tire, but it sure wouldn't surprise me to learn there are others making and selling a similar tire, which might be made differently in diameter, width or in some important manner. Ask to see the "Deere Information" which the dealer service deparment mentioned that supposedly outlines this issue.

It's hard to believe its out there and no one here on GTT has seen it or is aware of it. Honestly, most new information about these SCUTS tends to be here first on GTT and then known by the dealers at a later date, often MUCH later dates................

I wonder if the dealer service deparment isn't confusing the use of rear wheel spacers with mower deck clearance with the use of the Versa Turfs on the same machines. Something doesn't add up.................
 

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The rear tires on the Versa Turfs are a little larger in diameter than the R4's. I had the two sitting side by side (the R4's and the Versa Turf's mounted) and the Versa Turfs were maybe 1/2" taller when mounted and inflated. Does your tractor have the after market rear wheel spacers on it?

That can certainly cause fitment issues with the 60" deck as getting the tires mounted out further from the machine create clearance issues with the wheels on the mower deck. That is a well known fitment issue. I wonder if that's what the dealer service department is referring to in their comments.

If your machine has after market rear wheel spacers, I can see there being an issue between the larger diameter of the Versa turfs and also having them spaced further apart. But the Versa Turf's alone shouldn't create an issue alone.

I run my Versa Turfs at a lower inflation, which helped reduce their center of the tire height, but that's not why I run them at a lower pressure. I do it for the ride and traction. I don't think the Versa turfs were more than 1/2" taller than the R4's and its really a little more of the R4's being flat across the tread and the Versa Turfs being more "raised in the center" of the tire when up at max pressure.

One last thing, are your tires actually the Carlyle Brand Versa Turfs? I am wondering if there are alternate makers of the tires out there (after all, the demand is staggering for these tires) and perhaps the alternate brands are made slightly differently.

I can't come up with a single logical reason for the dealer's service department to "make this up" as what do they stand to gain? Either way, they are going to be installing the mower deck. It's not like they are going to benefit from swapping the tires out to the R4's.

I think it would be a good idea to double check your tires and make sure they are made by Carlyle and that they are the Versa Turfs. I don't know of alternate sources of that tire, but it sure wouldn't surprise me to learn there are others making and selling a similar tire, which might be made differently in diameter, width or in some important manner. Ask to see the "Deere Information" which the dealer service deparment mentioned that supposedly outlines this issue.

It's hard to believe its out there and no one here on GTT has seen it or is aware of it. Honestly, most new information about these SCUTS tends to be here first on GTT and then known by the dealers at a later date, often MUCH later dates................

I wonder if the dealer service deparment isn't confusing the use of rear wheel spacers with mower deck clearance with the use of the Versa Turfs on the same machines. Something doesn't add up.................
There are no spacers and I have no way of knowing if the dealer installed factory rims with the Versa Turfs. They did install Carlisle branded tires for sure. I can’t be sure about the wheels that service was preformed prior to delivery.
 

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The rear tires on the Versa Turfs are a little larger in diameter than the R4's. I had the two sitting side by side (the R4's and the Versa Turf's mounted) and the Versa Turfs were maybe 1/2" taller when mounted and inflated. Does your tractor have the after market rear wheel spacers on it?

That can certainly cause fitment issues with the 60" deck as getting the tires mounted out further from the machine create clearance issues with the wheels on the mower deck. That is a well known fitment issue. I wonder if that's what the dealer service department is referring to in their comments.
Great info Sulley. Would there be a fitment issue with the R3 Versa Turfs and the 54D deck?
 

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Hi I recently purchased a 2021 1025R TLB, 60D mower and a TKV collection system. I had the tractor equipped with the new Versa Turf tires too.

I took delivery of the TLB early without the deck installed - my dealer was extremely busy. I used the tractor to dive into a major project at my home. The tractor preformed flawlessly!! The Versa Turn tires provided traction without destroying the rest of my yard.

Here‘s the problem - the dealer now has time to install my deck but says they cannot install the 60D with the Versa Turf tires. There are numerous YouTube videos of 1025R 60D with Versa Turfs installed, all running flawlessly!!

Has anyone run into this?? They want to take my nice tire and give me something I don’t want!! Help would be greatly appreciated!!

Thank you!!
Well...I got the final word from my dealers Service/Aftermarket Manager (arrogant SOB). My dealer will not install my deck with the Versa Turfs they installed - period! I am not happy!!

I also called several of the 800 Deere numbers today, only one was helpful she actually called another dealer while I was on hold to find out if they would do the install as configured. The dealer actually said yes, no problem. Unfortunately, they were really far away and 6-7 weeks out!!
I shared all of this with the SOB at my purchasing dealership and he still said absolutely not - he would not install the deck!
I’m ready to pick up the deck and set it up myself!!
 
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