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Hi guys-
I have been doing alot of research lately; I am seriously considering a 2305 closeout at my local JD dealer. Main functions would be tilling our garden, loader work, and snowblowing in winter. I have done alot of reading and by and large it looks as if there are only positive reviews, however, I have heard mention of a fan that cools the transmission that several people mention disliking. Is it just a dislike or have there been real cases of transmission issues with this model?
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Welcome to DT JDF:bye:

There have been real issues with the fans...Mostly from operating in tall grass/brush/sticks that get under the machine. It happens to most when they are brush-hogging for example, or running through the woods.

With the jobs you listed, you should have no problems with the fan...but you can get a skid plate if you feel the need.
 

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A big WELCOME from me as well. JDF, Kenny has your answer well covered. I do own a 2305 and the only issues that I have heard of are the fan exposer and the early models with PTO damage when suddenly jammed to a stop. The 2305 is a good machine and will serve you well for the tasks you have listed. We will need pictures though to keep you in good standing on the forum.:laugh:
 

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Thanks for the responses and the welcomes too, guys. Randy, when you say some of the earlier 2305's had PTO issues, for which model years? I am also looking at a 2305 at a JD dealer near my Dad's place that is used....cannot recall the year of the machine right now, but if it is of a model year that had the PTO issues, I may stay away.
 

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Thanks for the responses and the welcomes too, guys. Randy, when you say some of the earlier 2305's had PTO issues, for which model years? I am also looking at a 2305 at a JD dealer near my Dad's place that is used....cannot recall the year of the machine right now, but if it is of a model year that had the PTO issues, I may stay away.
I am not sure where the model modification occured, I believe in 09. But don't quote me on any of this, strictly rumor that any changes actually took place. Personally, I think you will be just fine if you use a slip clutch or shear pin for tilling and brush cutting. To my knowledge it only happened when this was not practiced and then a jam occured completely stalling out the tractor. The PTO case completely let go and a big mess. It is not my intent to scare away from the 2305, rather let know the importance of sound equipment practices. I have attatched some reference info. so you can decide for yourself.

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/john-deere-owning-operating/93929-2210-2305-rear-power-take.html

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/john-deere-owning-operating/183225-john-deere-2305-compact-tractor.html

http://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/john-deere-owning-operating/139921-2305-fan-shield.html
 

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Randy, I also believe some of those problem where from PTO shafts that where to long, and put pressure the stub shaft when the implement was fully raised.
 

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Randy, I also believe some of those problem where from PTO shafts that where to long, and put pressure the stub shaft when the implement was fully raised.
Thanks Kenny, that is another very good point. PTO drive shafts must absolutely be the proper length.
 

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Thanks for the responses and the welcomes too, guys. Randy, when you say some of the earlier 2305's had PTO issues, for which model years? I am also looking at a 2305 at a JD dealer near my Dad's place that is used....cannot recall the year of the machine right now, but if it is of a model year that had the PTO issues, I may stay away.
So JDF, what's the verdict? I really don't think you can go wrong on the 2305. You do know the replacement series is all a buzz and should be out soon?
 

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So JDF, what's the verdict? I really don't think you can go wrong on the 2305. You do know the replacement series is all a buzz and should be out soon?
I'm torn! Some of the information I got from you regarding the PTO issues on the 2305 has me a little concerned, as I intend to have several implements that are rear-PTO powered. To be honest, after looking at both the 2305 and the 2320 at my local JD dealer, I am really heavily leaning toward the 2320 at this point. When you look at the 2 side-by-side, the 2320 definitely has a "beefier" transmission/frame/3point, etc.

That being said, however, the 2320 is a littler larger size-wise than I was originally thinking (but probably not that much), as my wife does have some smaller gardens and places in the yard that are closer-quarters in which I would like to be able to get the tractor.

I have also been very closely watching the release details and information surrounding the new 1023E and 1026R tractors....trying to find information on these units is what actually led me to this site in the first place. I would really like to get a look at these too before I make a purchase, which is why I think I may hold off until I can look at them and "kick the tires".

This has been a long process for me as I was looking at alot of different options ranging in size from the x500, x700, 2xxx, and 3xxx series. I can say that I have definitely decided upon a SCUT/CUT platform, rather than a larger lawn/garden tractor platform....the primary deciding factor of which is the fact that once you buy a SCUT/CUT, you can "grow into" it, meaning of course that you can buy the unit, then buy loaders, snowblowers, plus any category 1 implement you can think of. It seemed to me once you buy an x500/x700 your options in this regard were much more limited. I have also narrowed down further to a 1xxx/2xxx series, from a 3xxx series, due to the size concerns listed above.

A long answer to a short question, I know, but just wanted to share a little of where I was coming from in terms of making my selection. I genuinely appreciate the feedback I have received from you and other members of the board...I'll keep you posted as to the decision.

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JDF
 

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Whatever happens, Good luck making a decision! I dont think you'll regret it whichever way you go.
If "Growing into it" is something your factoring in heavily, I think I'd definetly steer you towards a 2320..You mentioned 98% of the factors of why I'd choose a 2320... I'm just thinking that for what you described, yeah a 2305 or the 1R would fit the bill, but it would be sized correctly NOW with not much room to grow so to speak.
There arent too many people who wish they would have gotten a smaller machine...I'd err on the side of caution aka: larger machine.
 

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JDF,

Dave has given you some very good advice. And it sounds like you are considering all the right things. Here is my two cents with the addition of your previous post. Personally, I would move up to the 2320 for the position control of the 3pt hitch. This alone will be well worth the upgrade. You can make do with the limited hitch of the 2305 but once you have position control you will not live with out it. Reference my post "2305 Limited 3pt Hitch".

http://www.greentractortalk.com/forums/showthread.php?814-2305-3pt-quot-Limited-quot-3pt-Hitch

If you really look at the wheel bases and widths of the two machines they are not that different. If you ever plan on any loader work at all, the larger machine will yield you greater benifits in weight alone. I really don't think that the larger machine will restrict you much for accessability. Height wise the 2305 has the disadvantage, the ROPS doesn't fold like the 2320. The turning radius of the 2305 is nice but not that big of a deal.

My last thought is test them out if you can. The machines really do feel different once you sit on them. And the larger one will feel a lot bigger, but look at them side by side and you will see you are not talking a huge difference. As far as the new models coming out, I am not sure you will see enough of a difference between them and the current 2305. The comparison will still be the new model vs the 2320. Sounds to me like you are on the right track. Let us know how it turns out.:thumbup1gif:
 

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2 other issues on the 2305. I have one and so does our church. If you use a 4ft rotary cutter, which is the only recommended size, you will have issues with the weight of it swinging to the left and right when you make turns. This will eventually bend the bracket that the left lift arm hits to raise the mower deck. This tractor is too small for that kind of work. Also issues with greasing the main driveshaft u-joints. I personally would not buy another one. These issues may have been resolved with the new 1-series tractors.
 

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2 other issues on the 2305. I have one and so does our church. If you use a 4ft rotary cutter, which is the only recommended size, you will have issues with the weight of it swinging to the left and right when you make turns. This will eventually bend the bracket that the left lift arm hits to raise the mower deck. This tractor is too small for that kind of work. Also issues with greasing the main driveshaft u-joints. I personally would not buy another one. These issues may have been resolved with the new 1-series tractors.
Are the sway chains/turnbuckles tight?
 

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Yes. This happened on both my 2305 and the one at church. The lift arms were changed on the 1-series. Somewhere on the internet there is a whole discussion on this problem and the reasons that it won't stay tight. I could get a hydraulic lift attachment for the MMM since I don't use the remotes for a FEL for around $300.
 

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If you want a cheap and easy fix for that, remove the outer bolt from
both turnbuckles and cut about 4 threads off with a hacksaw. You won't have
any more loose 3pt issues.
 

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I read that remedy before on mytractorforum.com. Wouldn't that reduce the width that you could spread the arms and make hooking up implements more difficult? They also seem to loosen after a while. Using the round wires to run thru the holes on the ends of the screws is not an easy task either. I know that they will keep the screws from backing out, but there has to be an easier way.
 

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I read that remedy before on mytractorforum.com. Wouldn't that reduce the width that you could spread the arms and make hooking up implements more difficult? They also seem to loosen after a while. Using the round wires to run thru the holes on the ends of the screws is not an easy task either. I know that they will keep the screws from backing out, but there has to be an easier way.
I had a 2305 and I cut/shortened the bolts and never had an issue getting it wide enough to hook up.

Throw away those stupid round things.

I drilled out the hole just a bit and used hairpin clips.
 

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I had a 2305 and I cut/shortened the bolts and never had an issue getting it wide enough to hook up.

Throw away those stupid round things.

I drilled out the hole just a bit and used hairpin clips.
Did the same on our 2320.
 

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Or you can go really cheap. Take a bungee cord and strap it from one turn buckle to the other going over the top of the guard of the PTO shaft. Cheap and easy. No thinking involved. :laugh:
 
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