2305 Stalls on Inclines

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dbweaver

Discussion Starter · Apr 14, 2012

Hello, I am looking for some advice on a stalling problem I have been having with my 2305. Has anyone had a similar problem when on an incline? I have had this issue 4 or 5 times in about 35 hours of operation but only occasionally. It seems to only occur when the tractor is on an incline. Otherwise, I have had no issues with the tractor. After the stalling I have to crank it a few seconds after I drift to a flatter area and it usually starts right up after sputtering a little. If I get on the incline immediately it will stall again. The 2305 has approximately 60 hours and I have completed the 50 hour maintenance so the fuel filer has been changed. This did occur before the maintenance once or twice as well. I purchased the tractor with 25 hours on it. Also, there appears to be no water in the fuel filter.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks

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dieselshadow

· #2 · Apr 14, 2012

Welcome to GTT!

:wgtt:

Were you close to being empty on fuel, maybe 1/4 or less? It sounds like it ran out of fuel or ran low on fuel pressure.

RRMCCABE

· #3 · Apr 14, 2012

Mine will stall with a low tank of fuel on a really steep incline. The fuel must exit the tank in the front. I havent looked yet.

But I have learned on my front bank if I am going to play around there I need more than 1/4 tank of fuel.

dbweaver

Discussion Starter · #4 · Apr 14, 2012

dieselshadow said:
:wgtt:

Were you close to being empty on fuel, maybe 1/4 or less? It sounds like it ran out of fuel or ran low on fuel pressure.

The tank was about 1/2 empty when it stalled the first time while digging, with BH, removing some old 4X4 posts that were concreted in the ground, I filled the tank full and about 15 minutes later it stalled again. I drifted to the a flater area and restarted the engine as before. Thanks

Kennyd

· #5 · Apr 14, 2012

Welcome to GTT!

When it stalls, check the fuel bowl and see if it's full or empty. If it empty then something is blocking the flow form the tank to it. Since you have to crank it a few seconds and it sputters a little I'd suspect a fuel delivery problem and not electrical.

hizdudeness

· #6 · Apr 14, 2012

I had a friend that has an issue like this on a snow machine for a whole winter. It would randomly stall. Over the summer he did a lot of troubleshooting and ended up finding a crescent wrench his kids pulled out of his tool pouch and dropped in the tank.

Might be an obstruction that moves around in the tank?

dbweaver

Discussion Starter · #7 · Apr 15, 2012

Kennyd said:
When it stalls, check the fuel bowl and see if it's full or empty. If it empty then something is blocking the flow form the tank to it. Since you have to crank it a few seconds and it sputters a little I'd suspect a fuel delivery problem and not electrical.

Thanks for the reply I will check the bowl next time this happens. It really acts like it is just not getting fuel just as you said.

dbweaver

Discussion Starter · #8 · Jun 4, 2012

2305 Stalling Problem

Kennyd said:
When it stalls, check the fuel bowl and see if it's full or empty. If it empty then something is blocking the flow form the tank to it. Since you have to crank it a few seconds and it sputters a little I'd suspect a fuel delivery problem and not electrical.

Hello Kennyd,
I checked the fuel bowl when the next time the stall occurred and found that the bowl was indeed empt. I slowly refilled as I cranked the engine. I checked the tank with Milwaukee Cordless M-Spector Digital Inspection Camera with fuel still in the tank and found some small round objects in the bottom of the tank. I could not tell what they were.

I drained the tank and used the camera to find 4 hard pieces about the size of a peas and one beetle shell. The pieces were some kind of nut shell. I used a small stick with tape on the end to remove the shells. I have not had much run time so it is hard to say if I got all of the shells out of the tank but so far so good. I attached a picture of the shells with a bottle cap.

Thanks for the insight.

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dieselshadow

· #9 · Jun 4, 2012

Wow, what a catch! How do you think it got in there?

dbweaver

Discussion Starter · #10 · Jun 4, 2012

dieselshadow said:
Wow, what a catch! How do you think it got in there?

I bought the tractor with low hours and I think the peices were in the tank when a bought it so i have no ideal how they got there. I stalling problem only occurs every 4 or 5 hours of run time. I just hope I got all of them!
HA!!

cjdavis618

· #11 · Jun 4, 2012

I have had a very similar issue with my LA115 riding mower. What happened to me was a couple of good sized jumping spiders had gotten in the tank and stopped up the fuel inlet. I know when it happened because when I took the gas can out of the lean too, and opened the nozzle of the can, I saw the web and spiders fall into the tank as it was filling. I figured there was a screen to prevent things from getting in the tube, but I was wrong. Stopped it up good.

Had to empty the tank, disconnect the fuel line from the filter and then use the air hose to blow back into the tank, and then clean it out. I added a plastic screen bulb over the hose to prevent that from happening again.

Kennyd

· #12 · Jun 4, 2012

Great news:good2:

Glad to hear it was a cheap fix...

636mullet

· #13 · Jun 4, 2012

"Milwaukee Cordless M-Spector Digital Inspection Camera " That's a cool tool to have laying around! I've seen similar things around and always thought it'd be cool to have. Do you get much use out of it? I suppose with a couple finds like this it's paid for itself as I'm sure John Deere shop time would add up quickly....

-636

dbweaver

Discussion Starter · #14 · Jun 5, 2012

636mullet said:
"Milwaukee Cordless M-Spector Digital Inspection Camera " That's a cool tool to have laying around! I've seen similar things around and always thought it'd be cool to have. Do you get much use out of it? I suppose with a couple finds like this it's paid for itself as I'm sure John Deere shop time would add up quickly....

-636

I recently bought the camera as a kit with a small impact driver so I have not used it much to date, but for things like this it will come in handy.

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dbweaver

Discussion Starter · #15 · Jun 5, 2012

cjdavis618 said:
I have had a very similar issue with my LA115 riding mower. What happened to me was a couple of good sized jumping spiders had gotten in the tank and stopped up the fuel inlet. I know when it happened because when I took the gas can out of the lean too, and opened the nozzle of the can, I saw the web and spiders fall into the tank as it was filling. I figured there was a screen to prevent things from getting in the tube, but I was wrong. Stopped it up good.

Had to empty the tank, disconnect the fuel line from the filter and then use the air hose to blow back into the tank, and then clean it out. I added a plastic screen bulb over the hose to prevent that from happening again.

Good ideal! I would like to add something to the tank inlet to catch such things. I understand that years ago JD had small screen in the tank but stopped including them some time ago?

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