Very interesting. I’m gonna have to look at my 2038R but I think it does draw air from the front screen area.
4 M/R Series Cold Air Intake
Thought process is that there is radiator and hydraulic coolers contributing to hot air being sucked into the intake and coming up with something that will draw air from the front would aid the charge air cooler and possibly making its efficiency better in the end.
NOTE: If you are interested in performance gains, well I cannot help you there as I did not dyno a before and after. I'll leave the performance discussions to experts like Gale Banks.
I've been doing a two-part R&D project using the tractor plus app as the validation tool. What I was seeing in the app was that ambient temperature was greater than 30+ degrees F above actual ambient in stock trim, for example in 15F temps my intake temps were around 70-75F. Note the ambient temperature sensor is actually located at the turbo inlet so it is not an actual ambient temperature sensor but rather a turbo inlet temperature.
Part 1 was using some heat wrap material for the air filter housing and hoses to the filter and turbo. This yielded less than expected results and I only saw a decrease in temperatures that were at max 5F lower than what was reported without the heat wrap. So, this to me was a non-starter as the benefit to gain was too low.
Part 2 was working with an engineer friend of mine to develop and test a 3D printed ABA/ABS adapter that would allow for intake air to be drawn in from in front of the radiator and coolers rather than from directly over the top of them and be strong enough with higher heat resistance. Quite the process to keep the inside diameter volume while making the required bends and curves to get around everything. In the end, this was the most significant reduction in temperatures. In testing so far, the difference between ambient and turbo inlet is now only 15-17 degrees F vs the 30+ degrees in stock form.
Due to the location of the inlet, it is very difficult to use fasteners to secure this so a double-sided tape, hot glue, or a light silicone would be the best to mount it. I made a cardboard template of the base and hole so I could mark the radiator shroud and aid in aligning the adapter as aligning the holes would be blind otherwise. I also just used a hose from Amazon to extend to the grill area. Amazon Hose . From what I can see on JD Parts all 4R/M series share the same fan shroud so the intake port should be identical.
Does anyone have interest in something like this for their 4 series? @isukennedy would make these for anyone for $35 shipped to you if you are interested.
Attached is a picture of the final prototype.
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NOTE: If you are interested in performance gains, well I cannot help you there as I did not dyno a before and after. I'll leave the performance discussions to experts like Gale Banks.
I've been doing a two-part R&D project using the tractor plus app as the validation tool. What I was seeing in the app was that ambient temperature was greater than 30+ degrees F above actual ambient in stock trim, for example in 15F temps my intake temps were around 70-75F. Note the ambient temperature sensor is actually located at the turbo inlet so it is not an actual ambient temperature sensor but rather a turbo inlet temperature.
Part 1 was using some heat wrap material for the air filter housing and hoses to the filter and turbo. This yielded less than expected results and I only saw a decrease in temperatures that were at max 5F lower than what was reported without the heat wrap. So, this to me was a non-starter as the benefit to gain was too low.
Part 2 was working with an engineer friend of mine to develop and test a 3D printed ABA/ABS adapter that would allow for intake air to be drawn in from in front of the radiator and coolers rather than from directly over the top of them and be strong enough with higher heat resistance. Quite the process to keep the inside diameter volume while making the required bends and curves to get around everything. In the end, this was the most significant reduction in temperatures. In testing so far, the difference between ambient and turbo inlet is now only 15-17 degrees F vs the 30+ degrees in stock form.
Due to the location of the inlet, it is very difficult to use fasteners to secure this so a double-sided tape, hot glue, or a light silicone would be the best to mount it. I made a cardboard template of the base and hole so I could mark the radiator shroud and aid in aligning the adapter as aligning the holes would be blind otherwise. I also just used a hose from Amazon to extend to the grill area. Amazon Hose . From what I can see on JD Parts all 4R/M series share the same fan shroud so the intake port should be identical.
Does anyone have interest in something like this for their 4 series? @isukennedy would make these for anyone for $35 shipped to you if you are interested.
Attached is a picture of the final prototype.
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Sorry, but it just wishful thinking to state that the intake restriction (pressure drop across intake piping) does not increase with pipe length, even when the pipe diameter remains the same.
As shown in this equation, as the pipe length (L) increases, even while maintaining a constant pipe diameter (D), the pressure drop (resistance) will also increase with increasing pipe length.
Creating an intake pressure drop reduces intake air pressure (and air density), which is to some degree counterproductive.
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