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4049M - What’s the story?

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#1 ·
The other day I was poking around on google trying to figure out where the 4049M is produced and I noticed some unique features that make it different than our 4M models here in the states. 1) Most all 4049M’s seem to have the nicer 4R suspension seat with armrests. I know you can add this to a 4M, but it seems almost standard on the 4049M. 2) I see a lot of 4049M’s with the factory mid scv. I even saw one with the factory mid scv with a 400E loader. Once again, you can put the mid scv on a 4M, but it’s not easy.

Tractordata tells me that the 4049M as well as all 4 Series models come from the Augusta plant. I know all US compact tractors come from Augusta. Is there another compact tractor plant somewhere else that produces Deere compacts for the rest of the world? When you consider how much different the Euro spec machines are from ours and how many options they have that we don’t, it like there has to be another plant but I could be very wrong. Here’s a couple pictures for reference.

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#2 ·
Europe seems to get better features. The 2036R was also built there as non emissions and could have an air ride seat which we cannot have on the 2032R/2038R. Also the 2036R could have a factory cab.

It is kind of like the jeep plant in town that builds diesels for Europe and other places but are not sold here.
 
#3 ·
This makes No Sense.

We enable others to do what we can't....Go Team jo

Unbelieveable.

Like Giving an addict money instead of a meal or rehab.
 
#4 ·
Different markets.
European made machines come with those features. If Deere wants to sell tractors there, they must have (at least) the same features as the competition. Tractors compete on features.
The shoppers expect that. They are "function buyers"

The north american market doesn't demand the same features, and people are more "price buyers"... Tractors compete on price. To be able to compete on price, you have to cut costs....

There may be a factory (assembly line) in europe - many nations demand 'local content'. But if there isn't - it doesn't matter... the same factory can crank out "similar" models with ease.
 
#5 ·
I dis- Agree completely.

We want it all...We can't have it...fjb...We should Not Build it Here for Their Consumption.

Building Non emission tractors for some other country....really..?
 
#8 ·
You can disagree with what deere does... And I disagree with that as well. Many other companies do the same with other products.
For example - here in canada, my 2017 TACOMA nav-system does not have traffic alerts - the system does not utilize traffic data that certain FM radio stations transmit. Unlike in the US - where this feature is available. The excuse was: there are no radio stations in canada that transmit traffic data... but that is plain false.
It's a software enabled feature. Costs nothing to implement. Yet - here we are.... and even now - 5 years later - still not available... even as a Paid Option!!!...

Facts are facts. You can't disagree with facts.
Just because a 1000 other people here want this feature, does not change the fact that 100,000 people don't want it - because they prefer a lower price for the tractor.
In Europe, you couldn't sell the tractor without it - because every other local-brand has that feature as standard.

The other point - not building something for someone else's consumption?... why would we want to do that?.... Building something for someone else is how you achieve exports!... Without getting deep into economics - exports is the best way to create value and prosperity. Just compare China (lots of exports) to Cuba (no exports).
 
#7 ·
My Sister worked for John Deere for 33 years and been to plants all over the world. She spent three years in Mannhien Germany, and two years in India.
 
#9 ·
Funnily there are really only 2 specs of JD CUTs America and export version.
There must be some kind of strong aversion to electrical parts in American market as basically all the difference is in those. Even if electrical parts in ag equipment are still looked down upon over here as well.
 
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#11 ·
This reminds me so much of the discussions/complaints/dreaming of not to many years ago about Euro-spec German cars vs. the cars those same companies were selling in the US. The models sold in Europe had higher performance, no emission controls (at that time), didn’t require unleaded gas, didn’t require ugly “5 MPH” bumpers (which first made some German cars look ridiculous at the time), and had more models from which to choose.

As others have pointed out, there are differences in regulations, and also differences in consumer tastes in various countries. Thus some degree of model segmentation across markets. For example, virtually all car manufacturers have stopped selling station wagons in the US, while they are still for sale in Europe.

Years ago while I was living and working in Europe, I encountered some US expatriate engineers who work working over there for a major US-based tire manufacturer. I asked them why they were doing engineering research and design in Europe. The simplified answer was that (at that time, at least) there were 3 different tire markets around the world due to local tastes:
  • European market: Biggest consideration was “high performance”, with product cost and tire longevity being much less important.
  • North American market: Smooth ride was most important, with cost and longevity being important as well. Performance, not so much.
  • South American market: Needed really rugged tires for poor roads, and ones that did not cost too much. Smooth ride was irrelevant, and high performance was unnecessary.
Of course you can always find people in one market area who want a model that is sold elsewhere, but it’s just impractical for every company to stock and sell every model in every geography.
 
#12 ·
Should I .no