Do you have any rear PTO attachments that would need the extra 8HP?

 

I just run a brush hog, land planer, and box blade. I am considering a plow and tiller at some point, maybe something to help seed winter barley. I don't intend on using for hay bales and bigger farming equipment.

Thanks for the response!

Don

 

how much difference in price between the 2? if you can swing it I'd go bigger if you can afford it.

 

$4k...is it really worth the upgrade? I always want to go bigger but I'm going from 42 to at least 67 HP so that's a massive jump in both HP and price. I've been able to do everything I need with the 42 so on the fence with an additional $4k and stay within my monthly payment budget.

 

well if it's within your budget. then I'd consider it. but if it's not, it's not.

 

Something like this i work in ratios.

$4,000 on 60K is a very small ratio and is not a make or break it. you will never have enough hp. and if its within your budget, then i say go for the bigger tractor and you wont regret it. but if you get the smaller one, regret is a big possibility when your HP isnt there when you need it.

as for the actual tractors you mentioned in the original post, i have no idea. sorry lol

 

We have a 5065E, and it's a pig on the road in high gear. An extra 8 hp would be helpful. At the least, test drive both and see how much difference there is. You may not drive it on the road of tow loads on the road, so it may not be a big issue for you.

 

Do you think that may have more to do with gearing than hp?

 

I pull a 10 foot cutter with my 5065E and it does not let me down on HP. I personally don’t think you would notice the difference between 5067e and 5075e but that’s just my take. I’d get the 5067E and take the extra 4 grand to get a new implement or put towards other items.

 

The 5067E and the 5075E are physically identical, the only difference is the ECU programming to let the engine in the 5075E make 8 more HP. The ground-engaging implements should run about the same on both of them as those tend to be limited by weight and traction rather than power, and your weight and traction would be identical. Anything you do with the loader is going to be identical between the two. You may notice a difference in PTO-powered equipment between the two but only if you are running something that is basically at the limit of what the 5067E could run, like a 12-15 foot batwing brush hog. You will notice some difference with more power in going up hills in top gear on the road, but you will still have to downshift a 5075E to go up some hills anyway, particularly if you are pulling anything behind you. The 3 cylinder 5E is also a pretty short wheelbase tractor and can bounce around a bit with a loader on the front and something hanging off the 3 point running in top gear at full throttle on the road, so you may not be able to go at top speed even if it's on level ground or down hill.

You could consider paring down the options list in order to stick to budget but get a 5075E, such as getting the regular cab and not the deluxe one. The price of any of the 3 cylinder 5Es except the 5050E roughly doubles between the most basic setup (open station 2WD) and the highest-optioned setup (deluxe cab, MFWD, third function, etc.) for the same model of tractor.

You could also look at a used machine. Basically-new utility tractors with a couple hundred hours or less or so are commonly available as ex-display/demo units and such and at a notable discount compared to brand-new. Mine was a display unit they brought to farm shows, fairs, and such, it had about seven hours on it when I bought it and I got a very good deal on it. Buying something they have on the lot usually gets you a better price compared to something the dealer has to order as well.

 

Thank you for all the replies! This gives me a lot to think about. I’ll let you guys know what I go with.

 

No, I think that it has to do with a very heavy cabbed tractor, with a loader, loaded tires, and double rear wheel weights being motivated by a 3 cylinder diesel.

 

Hey everyone! I really, really appreciated all the replies. At the price point, $4k didn't make much of a difference (after clearing with the boss, aka my wife) and went with the 5075e. What a massive difference in quality over the value brand I had!

 

You won’t be disappointed. I’ve never heard the sentence “I wish I got the smaller engine “.

 

MO1 is exactly correct. In the 5055, 5060, 5067 and 5075E’s, the ENGINE IS IDENTICAL. If you read the specs for each tractor, you will see the same model engine on each. Only difference is the ECU programming. Quite frankly, the huge difference in price for similarly equipped tractors in this class is a rip off. I have a 2024 5067E, and it has more than enough power and torque for any job I do on my farm. I would have bought a 5060 if I could have found one with the premium cab. If I ever want the additional few ponies of power, I’ll find a tech that will reprogram the ECU. Just couldn’t justify the additional money for what amount to a few keystrokes on a computer. The Premium cab is truly worth the money in my opinion, given the many extras and creature comforts that makes a day in the fields more comfortable. I have a grapple, so I did get 3rd function hydraulics on the boom. Upgraded SCV’s come standard with the Premium cab option. There is a change to a larger chassis in the 5 series, but I believe that starts with the 95 HP model.

 

The increased frame size starts with the four-cylinder 5Es, all of the three cylinder 5Es are the same physical tractor. The only difference is that Deere won't install certain features like a cab on the tractors it marks as 5050Es.

The ECU is apparently very difficult to modify. The EPA has basically said that manufacturers can get in trouble if they make it "too easy" for a unit to be put out of emissions compliance, so most if not all newer diesel ECUs today are encrypted. The EPA also has made a big show of heavily punishing people who sell Tier 4 diesel ECU tuners to try to quash anybody from even trying. There are some people overseas selling ECU tuners for newer Deere diesels but caveat emptor- the tuners are not cheap and if it bricks your ECU or causes some other damage, it's on you.

Basically, if you are looking for anything except PTO power and the ability to pull tillage equipment at a high rate of speed in favorable conditions (such as you want the size, weight, loader capacity, pulling capacity of that size tractor), get the lowest-HP unit in the line that has the features you want. If you are looking for PTO power or want to pull tillage equipment faster when you are not traction-limited, you will have to pay more for it.

 

I went from a 4044M to 5075E a year ago. Have never thought twice about doing anything less. That said, I would closely evaluate how much they are giving you for your trade and also price check them with other dealers. Everything is negotiable!! Heck I’ve negotiated discounts on grease at my dealer. Dang sure shopped around on the tractor. Push them as hard as you can. Sales are generally down right now.

 

Shop around. Not all dealers are the same. I have a 5067E open station. It does everything that I need. So it basically comes down to this, get what you want.