The only quick research i could find is that because you dont have hydro trans. Tats just a shot in the dark. Any reason in particular you just didnt go with the 3e which has backhoe option and hydrostat? Let me guess, manual trans. I cn understand that. Thats crappy the dealer didnt go in to fine detailI'm being told that I can't add a backhoe to a 3D series tractor. What is different that limits the ability?
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should not be an issue. Dont they all come with subframe option? I dont know, just asking. Im thinking it has to do with hydraulic flow and e hydro. Anyone know how these backhoes get supplied fluid. Does power beyond require e hydro?Possibly something to do with the cast iron axle/gear housing?
yes, however, when working with backhoe, hydraulic drive serves no purpose. When working with backhoe, you will keep the hydro in neutral so you can push or pull machine from backhoe seat with the bucket3D is a different rear end and I think most people shopping a backhoe would prefer hydro for finesse work. I bet Deere just didn't see it as a popular combination and didn't want to spend the time/money making a solution. Just my guess, don't really know at all.
yes but my comment wasnt based off of that. Was wondering how john deere these days have the hydraulics setup on small tractors to power the backhoes and how power beyond works? does it require e hydro trans and work off of e hydro with power beyond? Can you answer that? So does manual trans affect that and that maybe the partial reason why for the d series? someone mentioned its because the subframe wont attach. How could that be the case if both tractors are almost identical. Not trying to cause debate and be confrontational. Just curious as to what exactly the eliminating factor is. Everything on here seems to be speculation without pure proof from a documented write up that backs this upOf course backhoes can work on gear drives and have for years. I just mean that since hydros have become the popular choice on compacts, I would think someone planning to do backhoe work and spend the money on one is probably more likely doing the kind of work that hydros are better at. Deere doesn't have to provide all the combinations.
this pretty much sums it up thenCorrect. You can get a power Beyond on the 3E and 3R but not on a 3D. I'd assume that Deere spec'd out a cheapo hydro valve for the 3D as a part of their cost cutting and leaving out the PB capability probably saves them $3/unit on their cost.
thank you for the info. like i said, i was just asking for clarification. not to step on anyones toesThe Hydro transmission and Power Beyond operate independently of each other. You can have either on any machine. To have a Power Beyond you need a tank, pump fluid and a SCV with a Power Beyond port. Lots of tractors have all that without having a hydro transmission. (You can get 4M series machines with a power reverser transmission with a Power Beyond!)
