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I’ve never done it, I’m just curious if you can with fuel prices where they are now
Can you run off-road diesel in a 3039r
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big ass farm tractors are only fed off-road fuel.
i've used it in my fuel oil furnace. it's 100% the same as deisel fuel (<99.999%).
dudes that own diesel trucks run it illegally.
i've run off-road diesel in my 1025R for the 3 years i've owned it.
i've used it in my fuel oil furnace. it's 100% the same as deisel fuel (<99.999%).
dudes that own diesel trucks run it illegally.
i've run off-road diesel in my 1025R for the 3 years i've owned it.
Off road diesel simply does not have the road tax added to the price. Hence the name off road. You cannot legally run it in vehicles on the road because the taxes have not been paid on it.
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Off road diesel is actually specifically available for this purpose. The reason it's cheaper is because it is not subjected to the same tax as on-road diesel.
Other than that, it's identical - except for the red dye - which is added for the singular purpose of: if a scammer tractor/trailer operator wanted to run off-road diesel in his rig to save money, he can be "caught and fined" for doing it.
Other than that, it's identical - except for the red dye - which is added for the singular purpose of: if a scammer tractor/trailer operator wanted to run off-road diesel in his rig to save money, he can be "caught and fined" for doing it.
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Here in Pa the fine is either $1000 or $10 per gallon whichever is more. Plus you can be subject to criminal penalty up to 90 days in jail.
Just thought I would throw that out there..l.
I don't run off-road diesel in my tractor because I sometimes dump my 5 gallon cans in my diesel pickup so I can make sure I always have fresh fuel. I don't want to risk getting red dye in the pickup.
Also, there's no close station that sells off-road diesel.
Other than those reasons, I would do it, because in Michigan at least, I can road the tractor with dyed fuel as it is considered an implement of husbandry and exempt from a bunch of things, including fuel taxes, vehicle registration, trailer brake requirements, and length and weight limits.
Also, there's no close station that sells off-road diesel.
Other than those reasons, I would do it, because in Michigan at least, I can road the tractor with dyed fuel as it is considered an implement of husbandry and exempt from a bunch of things, including fuel taxes, vehicle registration, trailer brake requirements, and length and weight limits.
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GM was, if I remember correctly, the last holdout that said that off road diesel was bad for engines (I've seen it void a few warranties in my time). I'm not sure why but they've backed off that stance for about 20 years now.
My understanding is that it's bad news everywhere but how bad depends on which state you're in.
Missouri likes to fine you up to $10,000 for on road use of red dye fuel, and possible jail time. (We all know they're after the money though. Ain't no money to be made throwing you in jail for it...)They check farm pickups in my area regularly. Usually on sale days at the local livestock barns they're set up on the off-ramps to nab folks. Been checked 23 times in 5 years myself. Glad I don't own a diesel pickup any more. We do have a law on the books that says if a vehicle is driven less than 750 miles per year, AND never gets more than xx miles from the center of operations, it may use red dyed fuel. (HP will caution you that the law is open to interpretation by the OIC, and you could still be fined pending ruling...) Never had any desire to part with my money over something stupid so I never ran red fuel in any of our trucks or pickups. Now, since I've left the operation and my FIL is a tight-ass, I've heard rumors he's doing it. I just smile and say whatever. Not my money.
They all tried claiming the red dye screwed up injectors and pumps. Gummed them up and all. Worked for a while, until someone questioned why the off-road engines don't have those issues. All about the $$$, just like everything else.
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Exactly the same scenario for me.
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there used to be a time when off-road diesel was highly unrefined compared to on-road diesel. different requirements existed for blending, purity, sulphur content etc....
but all that is changed now... as of about 15-20yrs ago here.
Interestingly, heating fuel (ie highly un-refined diesel) is available here still in that form, and can be used in older machines (>20-25yrs old) that were designed for that grade fuel.
Here our heating oil is off road diesel - per our delivery guy who filled our oil tank and also my 5/6 gallon tractor jugs. Apparently it all comes from the same sunoco place - Just the "heating oil" gets the Red dye added when pumped. Runs no different than taxed diesel. I do treat all my fuel before it goes in one of the cans - Placebo or not, it's easy to do.
Operating your tractor with OFF-ROAD diesel is the way to go due to the cost without the road tax. That said, and from my experience over the past 10 years, be aware of WHERE you are buying the fuel. Stay away from small locations that MAY have a low turnover for OFF-ROAD in their tank. I have had my share of WATER issues from several such stations and no longer use them. No more than I use, I tend to pay the extra cost and purchase from stations with a HIGH TURNOVER for diesel. And anyone with a diesel knows the headaches of water in the fuel. 
Since I drive my tractor on the road very often, I just run the road diesel in it and I have the red key. No wonder the rear frame of the 3ph carry all has to act like a wheelie bar all of the time.
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