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Hello everyone, I hope y'all had a great holiday! I bought a s240 last May and the seat is beginning to tear on the left side about half way between the front and rear. Anyone else seeing this problem? It has only 18 hours on it and i'm not a large person,5'8" and 180lbs. it is garage kept out of the sun. I bought the S240 over the "D" models because of the better seat and engine. I called the dealer that sold it to me and I'm waiting to hear from the service manager.My LX176 seat lasted 20+
years....Why don't they make 'em like they used to?
 

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Same here. My X500 seat started to crack with less than 100 hrs. and it is always stored indoors. I had it replaced under warranty but I don't expect the new one to last much longer. My previous tractor was a JD 175 Hydro and that seat lasted over 15 years before developing some cracks. The quality on the current seats is pathetic. Browse through Craigslist sometime and you will be amazed at the number of low hour JD tractors which have cracked and torn seats.

The good news is that a lot of the inexpensive replacement seats that you can get on Ebay are much higher quality than the original JD seat.
 

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If you watch how many people get on and off their tractors, they use one hand to steady themselves and they push on the top corner of the seat, especially when getting on the tractor. This is real common with the small tractors that don't have the ROPS to use as a handle for getting on and off the seat.

Personally, I keep a seat cover on all my seats as it keeps them clean and it will cover up any cracks which will likely develop.:laugh::dunno: The seat covers actually have very handy storage pouches and pockets in them and that alone makes them worth the $$$$$$.

If you are looking at any replacement seats, measure your seats bolt pattern and take some pictures of it with your phone as most seats are sold with the "general application" designation. You will need to know the actual size of the hole spacing, etc to make sure it fits your machine.

You can get seats at TSC and I think even Harbor Freight is now carrying some seats. It's up to you to make sure they will fit as the "application charts" I have seen on many of the after market seats is clearly not accurate.
 

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I think the material dries out and causes it to crack and shrink. Maybe treat it with some kind of protectant once a month.
Dries out in only 18 months of being stored in the garage? No... the seats on the newer JD lawn and garden tractors use much cheaper construction than seats of years past. The vinyl is very thin and fragile to begin with. The Ebay seats I've seen have material easily twice as thick. The vinyl seat on my 2720 uses much thicker material than this X500 seat.

Using a seat cover isn't the best solution either as the JD seat covers fit so poorly. I put one on my X500 after having the seat replaced under warranty and it fits so poorly that you slide all over the place. It's hard to stay on the tractor if on any degree of side slope. Of course the minute you slide around then the front corners of the cover comes loose and you have to stop and reattach it. I'm this -> <- close to just taking the darn cover back off, letting the seat last as long as it will and then looking for a decent 3rd party replacement seat.
 

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Nice, I'm not going to replace it except under warranty. From the reply's so far, I get the feeling that everyone just accepts the fact that the seats are junk to begin with. I, myself find it hard to believe that a 22 hundred dollar lawn mower's seat is a throw away item and just chunk it and buy a new "better one". If the new warranty seat does the same thing, i might be inclined to think that way. What a shame only 18 hours!!!
 

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Nice, I'm not going to replace it except under warranty. From the reply's so far, I get the feeling that everyone just accepts the fact that the seats are junk to begin with. I, myself find it hard to believe that a 22 hundred dollar lawn mower's seat is a throw away item and just chunk it and buy a new "better one". If the new warranty seat does the same thing, i might be inclined to think that way. What a shame only 18 hours!!!
At 18 hrs. it should definitely be covered under warranty.
 

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This isn't a new issue. My dad had 2 JD 110s a 112 and a 318 and all have suffered the dreaded JD seat disease. I put 3 on my 455 and the last is aftermarket from seat warehouse. Its a year old and so far so good. My tractors have never been left in the weather and the seats all failed.
 

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Using a seat cover isn't the best solution either as the JD seat covers fit so poorly. I put one on my X500 after having the seat replaced under warranty and it fits so poorly that you slide all over the place. It's hard to stay on the tractor if on any degree of side slope. Of course the minute you slide around then the front corners of the cover comes loose and you have to stop and reattach it. I'm this -> <- close to just taking the darn cover back off, letting the seat last as long as it will and then looking for a decent 3rd party replacement seat.
This approach shown in the photo below sure solved the issues I marked in red.........Tiny bungee cords, stretched as shown. Seat cover stays right where it's supposed to.......188 hours and it hasn't moved.......And with the cab which changes your approach to the seat and my spinal fusions which eliminate a lot of flexibility, I "slide" onto the seat bottom every time I get on the seat in the 1025R. So if it was going to move, it would have.

The seat cover base even has eyelets on it to hook the bungee cords hooks through. Actually a well secured seat cover makes the seat LESS SLIPPERY than a seat without the seat cover. After all, it's blue jean material on seat cover cloth, verses the same on vinyl without the cover.


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This is the seat cover used on the seats with arm rests, such as on the 1025R. The seat back requires Velcro to make it fit "correctly". My wife is a master seamstress and she took the seat cover and sewed velcro on it and she fitted it to the seat back. Like it was made for it when she was done.........Out of the box, it fits the seat like a JC Penneys men suit off the rack, sloppily....but it's on...:mocking:


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There was a company in Colorado that made better seats but they are now closed. The comment I saw regarding the OEM seats was that they used thinner vinyl and the way it was attached to the foam didn’t allow it to move and it cracked. I have been looking for a set of seats for my gator and have held off until I can find something better. It seems like there would be a market for a quality seat. None of the replacement seats are cheap and and I think most people would pay more for a seat that would last.
 

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Well... this thread sure sparked an unexpected outcome on my part. If you recall, I had the seat split on my X500 at around 100 hrs and it was replaced under warranty. In an attempt to extend the life of the replacement seat I installed a JD seat cover as soon as the replacement seat was installed.

That was 2-years and 100 hrs ago. I'm now at 210 hrs. I've commented on how poorly the JD seat covers fit and how they are always sliding around. Unlike the SCUT/CUT covers there really isn't any place on the L&G covers to attach additional bungies or anything.

So last night after I finished mowing I flipped up my seat cover to see how the new seat was holding up. Imagine my shock when THIS is what I found. Keep in mind this tractor is stored in a garage at all times. I have to ask myself why did I even bother with a seat cover. My old 175 Hydro seat lasted over 17 years before it developed the first crack.

Needless to say I will not be replacing it with a JD OEM seat. I think I'm going to give one of those Ebay seats a try. I installed one of those on the old 175 and I was very impressed with the construction.

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A&I makes a decent seat and should be available thru you Deere dealer as an aftermarket seat.
Sometimes we get new machines out of the crate with jacked up seats or black mold that is impossible to scrub off. My Scotts made in 2000 is just starting to crack. I dont understand the quality of seats Deere is using. I just keep making reports, taking pics. All on my dime of course. No feed back yet.

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Well... this thread sure sparked an unexpected outcome on my part. If you recall, I had the seat split on my X500 at around 100 hrs and it was replaced under warranty. In an attempt to extend the life of the replacement seat I installed a JD seat cover as soon as the replacement seat was installed.

That was 2-years and 100 hrs ago. I'm now at 210 hrs. I've commented on how poorly the JD seat covers fit and how they are always sliding around. Unlike the SCUT/CUT covers there really isn't any place on the L&G covers to attach additional bungies or anything.

So last night after I finished mowing I flipped up my seat cover to see how the new seat was holding up. Imagine my shock when THIS is what I found. Keep in mind this tractor is stored in a garage at all times. I have to ask myself why did I even bother with a seat cover. My old 175 Hydro seat lasted over 17 years before it developed the first crack.

Needless to say I will not be replacing it with a JD OEM seat. I think I'm going to give one of those Ebay seats a try. I installed one of those on the old 175 and I was very impressed with the construction.

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Nice pics.. And this exact place is where I see every seat fail. Same as we have seen for years. It wasn't 5 or 6 yrs ago that Deere realized they had an issue. The cause was the seat cover was thinner on the lower part of the seat on the outside radius. Yup.. Well we still have the problem. I really like the A&I seats. They seem more robust and they cost less than an OEM seat.

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Nice pics.. And this exact place is where I see every seat fail. Same as we have seen for years. It wasn't 5 or 6 yrs ago that Deere realized they had an issue. The cause was the seat cover was thinner on the lower part of the seat on the outside radius. Yup.. Well we still have the problem. I really like the A&I seats. They seem more robust and they cost less than an OEM seat.
The funny thing is I had the original seat replaced because it had a little 1.5" tear. This seat looks like it exploded. I have it taped up now with some yellow Gorilla tape and the vinyl must shrink because I couldn't even get the edges of the vinyl to go back together.
 

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The funny thing is I had the original seat replaced because it had a little 1.5" tear. This seat looks like it exploded. I have it taped up now with some yellow Gorilla tape and the vinyl must shrink because I couldn't even get the edges of the vinyl to go back together.
Maybe have Gorilla Tape make the seats?? Lol

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