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Another beautiful day - decided to walk my property some more before the underbrush greens up - also picking of sticks and limbs along the tram road that runs parralell to the creek that I keep mowed. Here's a couple shots along the way:

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As I am getting toward the end of my property I see something - what the heck is this?

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I was on this tram road last Tuesday or Wednesday when I was marking my survey stakes and it wasn't there. Huh.....must have something to do with trout season opening yesterday. So hike back to the barn for a hacksaw and vice grips - took care of that chain in short order. Carried the stool and chain past my property line a bit and dropped it there.

As I said in another thread I've lived here for 20 years now and never felt the need for trespassing signs. Now just this weekend I've had to physically block my driveway and now this up on the tram road. When I went back up with my tools I also brought along a post that I pounded in the middle of the tram road - have to wait to get more signs when I go to Tractor Supply on Wednesday.

I just don't know what the purpose was of someone chaining/locking that stool to a tree right there.......

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I don't mind anyone fishing the creek along my property as long as they stay off my mowed lawn area. But when I think of what we went through to buy this property and the struggles to pay for it and the taxes all these years it kind of makes me mad. Guess I might be getting grumpy in my older age and sickness but I bought this place for privacy and to be along that beautiful creek. I just don't want to share!
 

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I posted my properties the day we closed on both of them. The neighbors all got pissy about it, and I've had a couple people cited for trespassing. I even tell all of them we bought the land to get away from them, but they don't seem to "get it."

Me and the critters and any family or friends I happen to invite over are the only animals I want to see on my land. I'm not hostile about it, but I expect to be left alone out there.

Around here, if it isn't posted, you're chasing your tail. You need to confront folks to make them leave and then they have to refuse before you can get them on trespass if there isn't a legal sign saying otherwise. I'd rather not need the signs, but I'm not giving up instant prosecution without them.

What happened to respecting other people's property? Why is it a foreign concept these days?
 

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I posted my properties the day we closed on both of them. The neighbors all got pissy about it, and I've had a couple people cited for trespassing. I even tell all of them we bought the land to get away from them, but they don't seem to "get it."

Me and the critters and any family or friends I happen to invite over are the only animals I want to see on my land. I'm not hostile about it, but I expect to be left alone out there.

Around here, if it isn't posted, you're chasing your tail. You need to confront folks to make them leave and then they have to refuse before you can get them on trespass if there isn't a legal sign saying otherwise. I'd rather not need the signs, but I'm not giving up instant prosecution without them.

What happened to respecting other people's property? Why is it a foreign concept these days?
You make me feel a bit better - it's not only me who thinks like this.

And your last sentence - as I mentioned we've been living here for 20 years. Yeah, there has been a rogue person here and there walking across the property but last year and now this year it seems a lot worse. Is this something like a new generation and their lack of respect or something?

My biggest problem is the creek - seems to be a popular section to fish. When we first moved here I actually was respectful of the older guys who had been fishing around here for years - talked with them about staying away from the house area and especially Bentley (English Mastiff) and they were fine with it. I actually had in my mind to put signs on the upper end of the property stating "walk in fishing only" but changed my mind after today.

Bentley, although getting old like us, has been on high alert and patrol the past couple days. He roams free (doesn't even have a collar) but has never left sight of the house. Also he won't go down the bank to the creek unless one of us is there with him. A couple times over the years it's been kind of fun to see the reaction on people's faces when they are half way across the yard when Bentley barrels around the corner of the house and is in full sprint toward them.....

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And sitting on the bank keeping an eye on the fishermen.....or maybe the ducks.....

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How about some "Danger: Chemical Spill" signs... "Caution Trapping In Progress". Or the old standby "Tresspassers Will Be Bitten (or SHOT, your choice)".

It's a damn good thing for the world I don't have more than a 1/2 acre!:laugh:
 

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It's that "entitlement" thing they have going on. They just don't think you have the entitlement to run them off your property. :nunu: :snipersmilie:
 

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Warning the neighbors I was going to be trapping was the start of our bad relationship. Instead of just being the "jerk" who wouldn't let them freeload off my land, I became the guy who wanted to hurt their free-ranging pets.

I've never been one to harm an animal who's owner was the one who needed a beating. It's not their fault their owners don't care enough about them to keep them out of harms way.
 

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Another beautiful day - decided to walk my property some more before the underbrush greens up - also picking of sticks and limbs along the tram road that runs parralell to the creek that I keep mowed. Here's a couple shots along the way:

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As I am getting toward the end of my property I see something - what the heck is this?

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I was on this tram road last Tuesday or Wednesday when I was marking my survey stakes and it wasn't there. Huh.....must have something to do with trout season opening yesterday. So hike back to the barn for a hacksaw and vice grips - took care of that chain in short order. Carried the stool and chain past my property line a bit and dropped it there.

As I said in another thread I've lived here for 20 years now and never felt the need for trespassing signs. Now just this weekend I've had to physically block my driveway and now this up on the tram road. When I went back up with my tools I also brought along a post that I pounded in the middle of the tram road - have to wait to get more signs when I go to Tractor Supply on Wednesday.

I just don't know what the purpose was of someone chaining/locking that stool to a tree right there.......

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I don't mind anyone fishing the creek along my property as long as they stay off my mowed lawn area. But when I think of what we went through to buy this property and the struggles to pay for it and the taxes all these years it kind of makes me mad. Guess I might be getting grumpy in my older age and sickness but I bought this place for privacy and to be along that beautiful creek. I just don't want to share!

ALIENS!!!!!!!!!! :eek:hmy:
 
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How about some "Danger: Chemical Spill" signs... "Caution Trapping In Progress". Or the old standby "Tresspassers Will Be Bitten (or SHOT, your choice)".

It's a damn good thing for the world I don't have more than a 1/2 acre!:laugh:
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You should watch secondhand lions. You can get some GREAT ideas....

One of these days, I'm gonna get some signs that say, IF you are caught on my property twice without permission, you will be shot on sight. Can't wait to see them looks on their face when I follow through.....
 
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Sorry you've had some issues at your place coaltrain (and what a nice looking place it is:thumbup1gif:). We were thrust into a dispute this past week with a neighbor. After living side by side for almost 10 years, I feel like I don't even know the guy. If these people want to act like they own more land than they actually do, then they need to buy places with more land. In my case, knowing my profession and contacts, it baffles me what I have been threatened with. :unknown: This guy has been on me for years to sell some land to him, he doesn't have a snowball's chance now. I am hoping things quiet down for you (and me)!:good2:
 

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Sorry you've had some issues at your place coaltrain (and what a nice looking place it is:thumbup1gif:). We were thrust into a dispute this past week with a neighbor. After living side by side for almost 10 years, I feel like I don't even know the guy. If these people want to act like they own more land than they actually do, then they need to buy places with more land. In my case, knowing my profession and contacts, it baffles me what I have been threatened with. :unknown: This guy has been on me for years to sell some land to him, he doesn't have a snowball's chance now. I am hoping things quiet down for you (and me)!:good2:
Yeah - that's really something. Argue with a licensed surveyor about where your property line is.....

For me on that side it isn't the neighbor - it's people from either the local one horse town or more than likely (dare I say) flatlanders coming on my property from up above. I think they park up the road where the tram road meets the road (another 1/2 miles or so) then walk down through to go fishing.

My other problem is my driveway/barn side where I posted about putting signs and/or gate on my driveway. The old guy next door has what I guess is a bait shop of sorts - an old chicken coop with a couple refrigerators and a freezer for ice. He has a couple signs up along the road in front of his place but his driveway is 1/2 mile down around the corner. My driveway happens to be right along my property line and his house is also right on his property line. So people think my driveway goes to his place via the nice little walking bridge I have to access the little strip of property on the opposite side of the gully. I had to put a couple saw horses at the end of my driveway over the weekend.....

I'll get some better pics of this situation but here is the view of my driveway from the road. Directly in front is my barn and you can see the walking bridge and see his house. My property line is aligned with the blue pool toward the back:

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Coaltrain; what u do with ur property is up to you. but would have kind of thought that you wouldn't have opened ur arms for all the fishermen maybe a few, as u quoted you had thought of letting walk ins to fish, just remember how nice artittan was to u this last winter, and how u say u have used this item every day almost since receiving them, so maybe a few kids supervised by their parents to be able to enjoy the day of catching some fish would be a nice way of bringing the circle . you had said how you and ur wife had been for years on the giving end when u received ur gift, don't let it stop their. just staying my $.02 cents, and you never know it could of been aliens as john said:knownothing:
 

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Yeah - that's really something. Argue with a licensed surveyor about where your property line is.....

For me on that side it isn't the neighbor - it's people from either the local one horse town or more than likely (dare I say) flatlanders coming on my property from up above. I think they park up the road where the tram road meets the road (another 1/2 miles or so) then walk down through to go fishing.

My other problem is my driveway/barn side where I posted about putting signs and/or gate on my driveway. The old guy next door has what I guess is a bait shop of sorts - an old chicken coop with a couple refrigerators and a freezer for ice. He has a couple signs up along the road in front of his place but his driveway is 1/2 mile down around the corner. My driveway happens to be right along my property line and his house is also right on his property line. So people think my driveway goes to his place via the nice little walking bridge I have to access the little strip of property on the opposite side of the gully. I had to put a couple saw horses at the end of my driveway over the weekend.....

I'll get some better pics of this situation but here is the view of my driveway from the road. Directly in front is my barn and you can see the walking bridge and see his house. My property line is aligned with the blue pool toward the back:

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That problem is similar to mine, tight quarters. You and I both have some acreage, but it is tight in a particular area, and that is where trouble lurks. I have no problems in my woods, or field. But that 3/4 acre lot cut out of my N.E. corner years ago, was the worst decision someone (not me) ever made...in my opinion. Unfortunately, when we bought we thought that there was plenty of room after living on a 50'x100' lot for 10 years with neighbors everywhere. How wrong we were.:nunu:
 
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Coaltrain; what u do with ur property is up to you. but would have kind of thought that you wouldn't have opened ur arms for all the fishermen maybe a few, as u quoted you had thought of letting walk ins to fish, just remember how nice artittan was to u this last winter, and how u say u have used this item every day almost since receiving them, so maybe a few kids supervised by their parents to be able to enjoy the day of catching some fish would be a nice way of bringing the circle . you had said how you and ur wife had been for years on the giving end when u received ur gift, don't let it stop their. just staying my $.02 cents, and you never know it could of been aliens as john said:knownothing:
Your point is well taken Big Jim and I agree. I have never and will never stop anyone from fishing the creek. While my property does run along the creek I don't own the water or the fish in it. To help explain a little better I took some more pics this morning. Most of these will show my tram road and the distance between it and the creek. I consider my tram road as mine and private. It was one of the many features that pushed us to buy this place - a nice walking trail that runs along the creek. I keep it mowed and brushed. Also after how many years now I am bound and determined to start walking in the woods again and the tram road is the easiest (flattest) place for me to walk.

Starting at my house this is my pavilion as seen from my back deck. Believe it or not I've caught people sitting at the picnic table 3 times the past 2 years:

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Here is the view between my pavilion and the creek. Anyone can be down there - I don't care:

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Now as I walk up the tram road are a couple shots - I am standing on the tram road shooting toward the creek. I don't care if anyone is along this part at all as long as they stay off the tram road:

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And a couple shots walking back showing the amount of property between the tram road and creek:

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I don't know - maybe I am taking this too far. But when people walk down the tram road right onto my mowed lawn and walk into my pavilion and sit down it really bothers me.
 

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I don't know - maybe I am taking this too far. But when people walk down the tram road right onto my mowed lawn and walk into my pavilion and sit down it really bothers me.
It would bother me too.
 

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Yeah - that's really something. Argue with a licensed surveyor about where your property line is.....

For me on that side it isn't the neighbor - it's people from either the local one horse town or more than likely (dare I say) flatlanders coming on my property from up above. I think they park up the road where the tram road meets the road (another 1/2 miles or so) then walk down through to go fishing.

My other problem is my driveway/barn side where I posted about putting signs and/or gate on my driveway. The old guy next door has what I guess is a bait shop of sorts - an old chicken coop with a couple refrigerators and a freezer for ice. He has a couple signs up along the road in front of his place but his driveway is 1/2 mile down around the corner. My driveway happens to be right along my property line and his house is also right on his property line. So people think my driveway goes to his place via the nice little walking bridge I have to access the little strip of property on the opposite side of the gully. I had to put a couple saw horses at the end of my driveway over the weekend.....

I'll get some better pics of this situation but here is the view of my driveway from the road. Directly in front is my barn and you can see the walking bridge and see his house. My property line is aligned with the blue pool toward the back:

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You should just do what Mr. Robertson did. He caught some dudes pulling fish outta his nets. He came up with shotgun in hand and told them that they just needed to ask if they want fish. The folks never came back.
 
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Coaltrain; as u stated as finding the chair chained and padlocked to ur tree on ur path that u take care of and don't forget pay taxes on, I would of been madd too. that chair could of been their in deer season maybe...... and left behind??? after season, have u been up that road since last summer? at the pavillon I would put a can with a sign for a donation to sit a spell or maybe a little good conversation could be enjoyed by all together. when I was kid growing up, everyone knew everybody for miles around, their was not any no trespassing sign's on anybody's farms. now 40 years or more have went by farms changed hands and they are everywhere.WHY, because a few don't respect fences to start with, climb right over in middle, not beside post's. and then we get the lawyers involved to sue everyone for stupid acts of stupid, easy money, yes!! now in my area they want to take old parts of turnpike tunnels and turn into biking trails or walkways for touriusm attract them:gizmo: like I said it's your ground do with as u see fit, big jim you are the one who has to sleep at night:flag_of_truce:
 
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You make me feel a bit better - it's not only me who thinks like this.

And your last sentence - as I mentioned we've been living here for 20 years. Yeah, there has been a rogue person here and there walking across the property but last year and now this year it seems a lot worse. Is this something like a new generation and their lack of respect or something?

My biggest problem is the creek - seems to be a popular section to fish. When we first moved here I actually was respectful of the older guys who had been fishing around here for years - talked with them about staying away from the house area and especially Bentley (English Mastiff) and they were fine with it. I actually had in my mind to put signs on the upper end of the property stating "walk in fishing only" but changed my mind after today.

Bentley, although getting old like us, has been on high alert and patrol the past couple days. He roams free (doesn't even have a collar) but has never left sight of the house. Also he won't go down the bank to the creek unless one of us is there with him. A couple times over the years it's been kind of fun to see the reaction on people's faces when they are half way across the yard when Bentley barrels around the corner of the house and is in full sprint toward them.....

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And sitting on the bank keeping an eye on the fishermen.....or maybe the ducks.....

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I just love this guy! Awesome Guardian dogs. Too bad people can't understand the markings he no doubt leaves on the perimeter to denote his territory. The more I get to know people the more I love my dogs.
 

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Beautiful place you have there, Coaltrain!! I'd love to live there - would you care to adopt me? :lol:

I don't blame you for being upset about this - I would be too. I think you're more than reasonable to let people fish in the creek from along your property. But to have them use your pavilion just ain't right! It's obvious from the quality of the pavilion and the decorations that it's not a public facility. You probably have to put up with litter, cigarette butts, etc. in there as well. Even if the trespassers use a trash can, you still have to empty their trash.

I don't have anywhere close to the amount of property that you have, but I just posted our driveway. I'm getting tired of solicitors and people of various religions showing up on my porch unannounced! I had one religious person come to my BACK door!! That nut said "You sure have a beautiful place here. My wife and I came here when they previous owners had the open house when it was for sale. But I didn't know which doors to come to today so I came to the back porch." What a moron!

Anyway, it's your property and you have a right to enjoy it. It sounds like you're already being more than generous allowing people access to the water from your property. My only caution there is that you might have some sort of liability problem if someone gets hurt on your property.
 
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