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I have recently decided to cut back on my sugar consumption,,
so, the sugar had to go out of the occasional coffee that I drink,,

In the past, I drank black coffee in the Navy (1970's) and I drank it black, no "additives" ,, and I really liked it!! :good2:

Well, after deleting the sugar,, (no milk, cream or anything else,,) I found that I hated coffee,,

Over the past couple weeks, I have purchased over a half dozen 12 ounce bags of various coffee's,
I hated ALL of them,,

I tried no less than 5 different brewing techniques,, everything was a failure,,,

Well, two days ago, I decided to try one more,,
it is Breakfast Blend from New England Coffee Company,, from Walmart,,

The coffee was perfect on the first attempt!! :yahoo:

Then, I noticed,, the coffee grounds did not "smell"

I quickly checked the scent of the other coffee bags,, yep, they all had a strong essential oil scent,,
The smell is so strong, it is overwhelming,,,

So, I think I found MY issue,
the different coffee brands are trying to differentiate themselves with essential oil or some other additive that changes the coffee.
I was not bothered by the scent, as long as I covered it with sugar,, etc,,,

Are you a black coffee drinker? :flag_of_truce: Does this scent in some coffee bother you?? :flag_of_truce:

I am glad I found a "plain" coffee,,,
 

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I have recently decided to cut back on my sugar consumption,,
so, the sugar had to go out of the occasional coffee that I drink,,

In the past, I drank black coffee in the Navy (1970's) and I drank it black, no "additives" ,, and I really liked it!! :good2:

Well, after deleting the sugar,, (no milk, cream or anything else,,) I found that I hated coffee,,

Over the past couple weeks, I have purchased over a half dozen 12 ounce bags of various coffee's,
I hated ALL of them,,

I tried no less than 5 different brewing techniques,, everything was a failure,,,

Well, two days ago, I decided to try one more,,
it is Breakfast Blend from New England Coffee Company,, from Walmart,,

The coffee was perfect on the first attempt!! :yahoo:

Then, I noticed,, the coffee grounds did not "smell"

I quickly checked the scent of the other coffee bags,, yep, they all had a strong essential oil scent,,
The smell is so strong, it is overwhelming,,,

So, I think I found MY issue,
the different coffee brands are trying to differentiate themselves with essential oil or some other additive that changes the coffee.
I was not bothered by the scent, as long as I covered it with sugar,, etc,,,

Are you a black coffee drinker? :flag_of_truce: Does this scent in some coffee bother you?? :flag_of_truce:

I am glad I found a "plain" coffee,,,

Yep went through the same process about 25 years ago, then again when I stopped smoking over 10 years ago. Stopped cold with milk and sugar. Then realized my coffee tasted like crap black. Was using folgers at the time. I love coffee always have. So the search went on for what ever I was looking for. Tried many blends and no so blends over the years, even tried to grind my own for a while. I ended up with Seattles best and/or Gevalia dark when I can find it, if not neither one of them I will use eight O'Clock #5 dark blend. Both are number 5 very dark blend. I like it strong, most people that has tried my coffee that puts milk and sugar in it does not like it. To me, all others now taste like colored water now.
 

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So, I think I found MY issue,
the different coffee brands are trying to differentiate themselves with essential oil or some other additive that changes the coffee.
I was not bothered by the scent, as long as I covered it with sugar,, etc,,,
They aren't adding anything unless you are buying "flavored" coffee (like that hazelnut garbage!).

I roast my own beans. The oils you see (and smell) are different depending on where the bean was grown, the temps that particular season, etc.. AND by how the beans are roasted. If you roast faster with higher heat, you get more oils to separate from the bean. Roast slower with less heat and less oils come free. But those oils are all there within every coffee bean to begin with.

Are you a black coffee drinker? :flag_of_truce: Does this scent in some coffee bother you?? :flag_of_truce:

I am glad I found a "plain" coffee,,,
The New England Coffee Company Breakfast Blend is what is called a "mild" blend coffee. To get that they mix beans from many locations (Africa, South America and Central America) and roast them with a medium roast. If you took the same beans and kept them separate and roasted the African beans alone, you'd get a very different cup of coffee from a medium roasted Central American bean.

So that's your blend. Any time you are looking, look for a label that says it is a combination of African, Central and South American beans with a medium roast. Another brand that has Indonesian beans or is missing the African beans will taste (and smell) different.

I do a mix of 40% Columbian beans with 60% beans from Costa Rica over a medium roast and it is almost a perfect match for Dunkin' Donuts coffee.
 

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I love the smell and taste of coffee. I have drank decaf for 20 years and have always drank it black. Within the last 5 years, my at home brewed coffee has started to taste very bitter to me. It's funny that CADplans tried the different brewing techniques, as I have thought about doing that. At home we use a Keurig. To combat the bitterness, I add creamer, usually half an half, and only enough to take the bitterness out, but never any sugar, yuck.

Occasionally we eat lunch in a coffee shop, and the decaf coffee is not bitter at all, tastes so good to me. I have attributed it to using a professional/commercial grade coffee pot. I don't have to put an creamer in it. Recently (it hasn't even arrived yet) I ordered a decaf sampler pack from Keurig.com. Several of the reviews noted how smooth and non bitter the coffeed were. I'm hoping the best, as I really just prefer black decaf coffee.

FWIW, I only drink coffee at home on the weekends. My everyday go to is decaf green tea with honey.
 

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I drink coffee black and after trying a few different kinds have settled on the bags of dunkin donuts coffee that they sell at BJ's. People say I make it strong but I want it to have some taste and not just be hot, dark water. :bigthumb:

I don't like the Starbucks or most other fashionable coffee house coffee's, they are too bitter for me. :thumbsdown:

I can also put up with Wawa Columbian with a quick shot of their Hazelnut coffee when on the road. :good2:
 

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I agree with JimR, nothing has actually been added to those coffees-if it were they would have to disclose it-and if there is no disclosure listing an additive or flavoring, then they’re violating the law or not adding a thing.

He also correct the fact that different beans roasted different (and brewing) will greatly vary the end product.

You don’t mention the method you settled on for brewing but done improperly it can be make or break and turn excellent grounds into terrible undrinkable liquid.

-You want to brew fast, the less time the water is in contact with the ground the less of the deeper(bitter) flavors are extracted. There are multiple compounds within coffee and they are stripped by water at different rates, the best flavors are the fastest and the worst are slowest-if you want the best flavors your bean can give you you need to make sure the water stays in contact with them as little time as possible. Time does not =stronger coffee.

-You want to brew hot, 200-205+F. Not quite boiling but just under that-this will also extract only the light fast, sweet flavors from coffee and give you the best tasting brew. This also lets you brew fast so you can accomplish the above.

Find a method or machine that brews fast and at the proper temp and you will have even better coffee from your preferred roast.
 

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I normally drink one cup of coffee a day with breakfast. One k-cup, some sugar free powdered coffee-mate creamer, a dash of cinnamon, one packet of Splenda. I drop in an ice cube to cool it off some, stir, drink.
 

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You don’t mention the method you settled on for brewing but done improperly it can be make or break and turn excellent grounds into terrible undrinkable liquid.

-You want to brew fast,
As I only drink one cup at a time (or per day) I wanted a small volume method,,

The videos of the crud that grows in the Keurig machines scared me away from those,,,:flag_of_truce:

So, for now, I purchased one of these from Walmart, and heat the water in the microwave,,,



I always measure the water temp, and adjust it to 195 degrees,,,:dunno:

I do "pre-wet" the grounds with about a tablespoon of water, while waiting for the water to heat,,,

We have a tiny microwave,, to heat 12 ounces of water, it takes 3 minutes,,,
 

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As I only drink one cup at a time (or per day) I wanted a small volume method,,

The videos of the crud that grows in the Keurig machines scared me away from those,,,:flag_of_truce:

So, for now, I purchased one of these from Walmart, and heat the water in the microwave,,,



I always measure the water temp, and adjust it to 195 degrees,,,:dunno:

I do "pre-wet" the grounds with about a tablespoon of water, while waiting for the water to heat,,,

We have a tiny microwave,, to heat 12 ounces of water, it takes 3 minutes,,,
Sounds like a home run on both accounts to me :good2:
 

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They aren't adding anything unless you are buying "flavored" coffee (like that hazelnut garbage!).

I roast my own beans. The oils you see (and smell) are different depending on where the bean was grown, the temps that particular season, etc.. AND by how the beans are roasted. If you roast faster with higher heat, you get more oils to separate from the bean. Roast slower with less heat and less oils come free. But those oils are all there within every coffee bean to begin with.



The New England Coffee Company Breakfast Blend is what is called a "mild" blend coffee. To get that they mix beans from many locations (Africa, South America and Central America) and roast them with a medium roast. If you took the same beans and kept them separate and roasted the African beans alone, you'd get a very different cup of coffee from a medium roasted Central American bean.

So that's your blend. Any time you are looking, look for a label that says it is a combination of African, Central and South American beans with a medium roast. Another brand that has Indonesian beans or is missing the African beans will taste (and smell) different.

I do a mix of 40% Columbian beans with 60% beans from Costa Rica over a medium roast and it is almost a perfect match for Dunkin' Donuts coffee.
This is great info, I may have to print this post and put it in my wallet,,, :flag_of_truce:

I guess I really hate high temp roasted coffee,,, :dunno:


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I get beans from a local roaster in Cranberry TWP. PA. I'm not the coffee connoisseur that JimR is but I savor a freshly ground blend of various Arabica beans. Usually a blend of Colombian Supremo; a mild Costa Rican and an Ethiopian Sidamo. A dark roast pushes the flavor profile and sometimes I'll opt for a medium roast of those same beans, less the African beans.
My taste varies too at times. If I want a smooth cup I'll use the french press but most of the time it's the Bunn.
 

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As I only drink one cup at a time (or per day) I wanted a small volume method,,

The videos of the crud that grows in the Keurig machines scared me away from those,,,:flag_of_truce:

So, for now, I purchased one of these from Walmart, and heat the water in the microwave,,,

I always measure the water temp, and adjust it to 195 degrees,,,:dunno:

I do "pre-wet" the grounds with about a tablespoon of water, while waiting for the water to heat,,,

We have a tiny microwave,, to heat 12 ounces of water, it takes 3 minutes,,,

Ahhhh yes the Keurig. We are on our second one. The first lasted 6 years, actually it is still working, but is now our in our camper. The one we have now is not quite a year old. It is much more high tech with a touch screen, etc. We have well water that is filtered with the tightest filter I can get. I think in 6 years, we descaled the first Keurig once. This new one has been descaled once already. We also have had "pressure" problem messages showing up on the screen with grounds blown all over the inside, a real PITA to clean up. I finally called Keurig and as soon as they heard "well water", they had the solution. The new machines have so many sensors, they don't recommend using well water. So I started buying jugs of water from the grocery store and the problem has stopped, almost immediately. I'm so happy to buy water filters, then have to buy jugged water.....NOT!:banghead::banghead: But Mrs. CP needs her morning cup of coffee, 7 days a week.


CADplans....what is that contraption in the pic?:unknown:
 

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This is great info, I may have to print this post and put it in my wallet,,, :flag_of_truce:

I guess I really hate high temp roasted coffee,,, :dunno:


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Lots of people will tell you that Starbuck's "regular" coffee tastes bitter and/or burnt to them. That burnt flavoring is because they are roasting so much coffee that they turn up the heat to get it done faster. If you try a cup of their "regular" and a cup of their "mild" you can really taste the difference. They are both made with the exact same beans but the regular is roasted at a 50 degree higher temp.

When you're doing your own roasting all the science behind it gets pretty heavy. Different sugars within the beans melt (caramelize) at different temps so you can play with things and adjust the flavor profiles of different beans.
 

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CADplans....what is that contraption in the pic?:unknown:
I’m not cad but I can answer the question. It called a “pour over” brewer. You manually pour the water thru the grounds in the upper(filter) part and the coffee is collected below. As he describes he can use precisely the water temp he wants (hot) and it brews fast so the coffee is the best it can be.

If, and it’s very infrequently, I lower myself to going to Starbucks I always get something they have to make via pour-over, it’s the only way I can stand to have their coffee brewed.
 

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CADplans....what is that contraption in the pic?:unknown:
It is basically a miniature "Mr Coffee" coffee maker, without the tank, or heater,,
you heat your own water, and pour it over the grounds,,

They come in several sizes,, I think the one I own is a 4 cup size, or 24 OZ of coffee.
The max I make is 12 OZ..

The thing is barely larger than a coffee mug,, and the screen is "permanent", no paper filters needed,,,

I hate "stuff" on the kitchen counter,, I tossed 3 cans of baked beans, now, there is room in the cabinet to store it,,,:good2:

AND, the coffee costs about (I guess) 1/20th of what most Keurig cups cost,,, (Did I mention I am CHEAP!!?? )

That mini-maker cost about $10 at Walmart,,,
 

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Meh, I drink Folgers or the free stuff at work.
 

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Ahhhh yes the Keurig. We are on our second one. The first lasted 6 years, actually it is still working, but is now our in our camper. The one we have now is not quite a year old. It is much more high tech with a touch screen, etc. We have well water that is filtered with the tightest filter I can get. I think in 6 years, we descaled the first Keurig once. This new one has been descaled once already. We also have had "pressure" problem messages showing up on the screen with grounds blown all over the inside, a real PITA to clean up. I finally called Keurig and as soon as they heard "well water", they had the solution. The new machines have so many sensors, they don't recommend using well water. So I started buying jugs of water from the grocery store and the problem has stopped, almost immediately. I'm so happy to buy water filters, then have to buy jugged water.....NOT!:banghead::banghead: But Mrs. CP needs her morning cup of coffee, 7 days a week.


CADplans....what is that contraption in the pic?:unknown:
Not related to the Kerrig things but water - while reading this interesting thread I thought about the water used. To me water from different sources tastes different - so I am sure your coffee would taste different. I have spring water in my house - I can’t stand the city water when I go to Wendy’s so I always bring my own. I’ve never tasted bottled water so don’t know about that.

I love my coffee. Ever since I quit drinking beer about 12 years ago I’ve really come to like it. Have tried quite a few different brands but have settled on Tim Horton’s the past few years. Nothing comes close for me.

When out on a road trip I like to get my mug full of coffee for the long ride home. I have a heck of a time finding coffee I like. I used to get Sheetz coffee (local mini mart chain) but since about a couple years ago I can’t stand it. Don’t know what changed. So now in the town where we usually go for groceries I tried a GetGo mini mart - their signature blend works for me.

In another town where we go to a lot of doctor visits I end up going to Eat n Park restaurant on the way out just for my travel coffee - very good.

I don’t know what blend my Tim Horton’s coffee is but oh so good for me!
 

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Dunkin original baby, or bust.
Before I got into the Tim Horton’s it was Dunkin Donuts for me also. I had to buy it 400 miles away when on my mail run but now I see they have it at Walmart.

Regular ground coffee is getting harder to find. I wanted to get my wife’s dad a selection of coffee for Christmas. I couldn’t find Green Mountain anywhere in ground bags - ended up having to order from Amazon. Here to find out that Keurig now own’s Green Mountain. I have no interest in those single cup coffee maker things and neither does her dad.
 
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