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This spring I bought a new 1025R with the 60" autoconnect deck. It mows OK and I have about 50 hours on it by now. My dad had a bad accident and so I have been mowing his yard for him. He has a zero turn grasshopper and wow, what a nice mower. The seat is so comfortable and it mows so nice. Even in thick damp grass, it just chews it up and spits it out and when you are done, the yard looks like a golf coarse. It mows fast too. Anyways, my yard never looks like that with the 1025R. It leaves stripes where the wheels go. I think what is happening is that the tractor is so heavy , the tires squish the grass/clover down and the mower can't suck it up enough to cut it, so the area where the tires run doesn't get cut the same as the rest of it. I noticed that the zero turn mowers are less than half the weight of the 1025R. I mow the same direction all of the time and I noticed that if I drive across the yard in the opposite direction, I actually feel where the tires run. It feels like a bump/bump/bump/bump rythm on a bad highway. I think the weight just keeps packing that area down. My old 445 with the turf tires never did that, but it was a much lighter too. Anyways, I bought the 54" snowblower for it , a front end loader, and I have a rear mounted sprayer and am wanting to get a tiller for it. That auto-connect deck option was about $2200.00 and now I am wishing that I would have bought the tractor for all of the other things I use it for and put that $2200 towards a nice zero turn mower just for mowing. Now, could I sell my 60" auto-connect deck or trade the deck in towards a JD zero turn? Would it kill the value of the 1025R if I ever went to sell it and did not have a deck with it? I could keep it and just stand it in the corner (I have that axle kit for it), But I hate to have a $2200 deck in the corner if I could that money towards a nice zero turn. Do guys buy the 1025R's and not buy a deck for them? Don't get me wrong, I love my 1025R, but I don't think mowing is it's specialty. Are the JD zero turns good stuff? Thanks!
 

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Wow, I thought I was the only one that had both a tractor and a mower. We have a zero turn mower too, and would most likely opt to buy another one (if we had to replace it) rather than buying a mower deck for the tractor.
 

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I have both too. Wouldn't have it any other way either..

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Wow, I thought I was the only one that had both a tractor and a mower. We have a zero turn mower too, and would most likely opt to buy another one (if we had to replace it) rather than buying a mower deck for the tractor.
Nope, there are a lot of us. I have a 2720 with loader but I mow with a X500. Makes life "simple" :)
 

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Don't get me wrong, I like John Deere, they build great tractors, but you are not going to like the JD zero turn as much as the grass hopper. I got to borrow 2 ztr mowers from john deere. One 950R and the Scag Turf Tiger. After using the Turf Tiger, I would not even consider the JD. I would say the Turf Tiger is more comparible to the Grass Hopper. Just try them before you buy them.
About getting rid of your deck, the dealer probably won't give you much since most people buy in a package deal with financing. When you go to sell your tractor, it would sell better with deck just because deck is harder to get on used machine. Value wise, probably not much difference. You just have to figure out what is best for you and your needs.
 

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Don't get me wrong, I like John Deere, they build great tractors, but you are not going to like the JD zero turn as much as the grass hopper. I got to borrow 2 ztr mowers from john deere. One 950R and the Scag Turf Tiger. After using the Turf Tiger, I would not even consider the JD. I would say the Turf Tiger is more comparible to the Grass Hopper. Just try them before you buy them.
About getting rid of your deck, the dealer probably won't give you much since most people buy in a package deal with financing. When you go to sell your tractor, it would sell better with deck just because deck is harder to get on used machine. Value wise, probably not much difference. You just have to figure out what is best for you and your needs.
Our local fair is going on right now and today I was there and sat on a JD ez-trak 665. The seat was not nearly as cushiony as the grasshopper seat. The grass hopper that my dad has is the one with the deck out front. I see where they sell both front mount and mid mount. Can you guys tell me what the pros or cons are with front mount vs. mid mount decks. I know with the front mount you have to be careful how fast you turn or the rear-end can swing around and hit stuff. Don't ask me how I know that. I told dad that chip out of the side of the power pole has always been there-Hee-Hee! I think the grasshoppers are really expensive. I was thinking dad looked into a new one at one time and it was around $9500.00. Do most people prefer the grasshopper over the JD? I just don't see very many grasshoppers around here. I do like how dad's front mount deck flips straight up for cleaning and blade removal. Any advice is appreciated.
 

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Do guys buy the 1025R's and not buy a deck for them?
I think the responses in this thread thusfar should give you a fairly good idea of what's out there. There are a LOT of guys that would buy a tractor without a mower deck. I didn't even bother ordering one when I bought mt 2032R. I stuck with my dinky D160 for owing duties.
 

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Do you guys think that after using my dad's front mount Grasshopper that I'd be disappointed with a mid mount JD zero turn??
 

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Don't get me wrong, I like John Deere, they build great tractors, but you are not going to like the JD zero turn as much as the grass hopper. I got to borrow 2 ztr mowers from john deere. One 950R and the Scag Turf Tiger. After using the Turf Tiger, I would not even consider the JD. I would say the Turf Tiger is more comparible to the Grass Hopper. Just try them before you buy them.

Think Brians2032R gave a "yes" answer...
 

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I was dead set on getting a John Deere zero turn since I bleed green. Since I used to use a Grass Hopper on about 4 acres at a job I had, the John Deere didn't add up. It seemed to spin the tires and tear up the yard. Wasn't as comfortable as I would have liked and the cut was about as good as my 1026r. The sales guy asked me to try out the Scag Tiger. It had the horizontle shaft engine. Power was awsome and the cut was far superior to the deere. I hated to take it back. Hopefully next year I will be able to get the scaq or a grasshopper.
Don't get me wrong, if the Deere was the first and only ztr mower I had ever used, then it would have been just fine.
One advantage of front mount is that you can use front attatchments such as a snowblower. You would be amazed at how nice a ztr is with a snowthrower on it. Blade, not so nice. Hard to get traction. You can hit just as many things with the mid deck and the front will come off the ground easier. Front mount is nice to go under branches and bushes since you can drive into them. Man, I'm missing that Grasshopper.lol..
 

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Don't get me wrong, I like John Deere, they build great tractors, but you are not going to like the JD zero turn as much as the grass hopper. I got to borrow 2 ztr mowers from john deere. One 950R and the Scag Turf Tiger. After using the Turf Tiger, I would not even consider the JD. I would say the Turf Tiger is more comparible to the Grass Hopper. Just try them before you buy them.

Think Brians2032R gave a "yes" answer...
I love my Deere Z I looked at the grass hopper and the scag
 

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I am 54 years old and hate to have to manhandle heavy stuff like a 300 lb mower deck. The one thing about the grasshopper that I really like is that powerlift front deck that tips straight up where you can clean it or sharpen the blades and never take the deck off. I never even considered a grasshopper until my dad got injured and I've been mowing his yard with it. The big cushiony seat felt so good and my butt and back never got sore after 2 hours on it. And when I was done the yard looked so smooth and even and it is fast. The only thing I noticed is that it is pretty loud. But the loudness is mostly the mower blades and not the engine. It sounds like the blades are spinning ungodly fast. Maybe that is why it chews the grass up so good. Maybe I will look into a grasshopper this fall when the dealers are trying to get rid of them and maybe I can get a good deal. I will probably just keep the deck for the 1025R. It would probably be hard to get much money out of it and I could always use it in case the grasshopper took a dump on me for awhile.
 

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We do not mow with the tractor either, too much of a PITA and slow. Can't do backhoe/FEL work with a mower deck on. Can't mower the lawn with the backhoe/FEL on. Whatever you need is usually NOT on the tractor.
Our last ZTR mower weighed about 1,400 lbs, not sure what the new ZTrak 915B weighs, but it's heavy.
As ace man stated, I'm sure liking our ZTrak also.

http://www.greentractortalk.com/forums/lawn-garden-tractors/13546-new-zero-turn.html
 

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I am obviously different. I can not imagine having two machines to do my yard maintenance. I only have an acre but this was the reason I bought a 1025r. One machine that can do it all. I don't notice the compacting issue but I have the turf tires and a 54D.


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I thought the yard looked OK but a little funky with the tire stripes that the 1025R leaves, but I was happy with it. The mistake I made was using my Dad's front mount grasshopper. With a seat and ride that feels like a lazy boy chair and whipping around trees etc., not to mention a deck that electronically tilts right straight up to clean and sharpen the blades, I couldn't help but think, I want one of these!!
 

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Tough Question

You probably should sell the deck if you have access to something better. I don't, but I'm very happy with the cut I'm getting with the D60.
 
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