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Good morning all-

Fair warning- this may be a rant but also a request for advice.

We have a neighbor who literally is a danger on the road. In the past few years, he's had at least 8 wrecks that I know of, totaling three or more vehicles, (2 in the last two months) and unfortunately killing one other person who he hit head on.

He's part of a young married couple with two young children and needs to support his family, however, HE CAN'T BE TRUSTED TO DRIVE!

He literally is as dangerous as a drunk person walking around the neighborhood with loaded, cocked revolver which has no safety. Another accident will happen and everyone just prays that he will not kill anyone else.

The last accident was at 3:00 am. He drove off the road and up an embankment, split a poplar tree and the car rolled down the slope and ended up back on it's wheels. He drove it home with the right front wheel folded under the car, rear tire blown, air bag deployed etc. I have no idea how the car moved the mile or so home but it did. His wife called the rescue squad and they checked him over and he refused to go to the hospital but did go later on his own. No police were called.

He should not be driving at all. I don't know if he uses drugs, alcohol or texts but the record shows he's an unsafe driver. He spent some time in jail after the wreck that killed the other person but has has multiple wrecks since then. Short of simply shooting him, I'm at a loss of how to get him off the road before he kills me or someone in my family.

Do y'all have any ideas?

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After going to Jail, they didn't take his license?

I'd think only his wife or a family member could turn him in and ask for a his driving privileges to be revoked.
 

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Good morning all-

Fair warning- this may be a rant but also a request for advice.

We have a neighbor who literally is a danger on the road. In the past few years, he's had at least 8 wrecks that I know of, totaling three or more vehicles, (2 in the last two months) and unfortunately killing one other person who he hit head on.

He's part of a young married couple with two young children and needs to support his family, however, HE CAN'T BE TRUSTED TO DRIVE!

He literally is as dangerous as a drunk person walking around the neighborhood with loaded, cocked revolver which has no safety. Another accident will happen and everyone just prays that he will not kill anyone else.

The last accident was at 3:00 am. He drove off the road and up an embankment, split a poplar tree and the car rolled down the slope and ended up back on it's wheels. He drove it home with the right front wheel folded under the car, rear tire blown, air bag deployed etc. I have no idea how the car moved the mile or so home but it did. His wife called the rescue squad and they checked him over and he refused to go to the hospital but did go later on his own. No police were called.

He should not be driving at all. I don't know if he uses drugs, alcohol or texts but the record shows he's an unsafe driver. He spent some time in jail after the wreck that killed the other person but has has multiple wrecks since then. Short of simply shooting him, I'm at a loss of how to get him off the road before he kills me or someone in my family.

Do y'all have any ideas?

Treefarmer
Do you really have a police department there? He should not be driving and I hope he doesn't have a weapon either.. Write the PD or SP with your concerns.. He probably doesn't have insurance either and is his vehicle registered? If this occurred here he would not have a license nor insurance, he wouldn't be able to afford it with all the Massachusetts surcharges!! However, people will still drive without a license nor even tags on the vehicle.. Be aware Tree, very aware.. If you do shoot him, all I can advise; quick lye...
 

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The last accident was at 3:00 am. He drove off the road and up an embankment, split a poplar tree and the car rolled down the slope and ended up back on it's wheels. He drove it home with the right front wheel folded under the car, rear tire blown, air bag deployed etc. I have no idea how the car moved the mile or so home but it did. His wife called the rescue squad and they checked him over and he refused to go to the hospital but did go later on his own. No police were called.
Call the police (non-emergency number) and report the damaged tree. Then tell them of your suspicions about who damaged the tree. They probably want him off the road just as much as you do.

The report of a damaged tree gives them an excuse to open an investigation. If that investigation leads them to his house... so be it. Then they can issue him a citation for leaving the scene of an accident and failing to report an accident. (Although, I'm surprised that the Rescue squad showed up without any police involvement. In my area the police show up any time fire or rescue responds.)

Eventually he'll get enough citations that the State will yank his license.
 

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I am not defending the neighbor,, but,,,,
this type of activity used to be the norm in the 1950's and 1960's

That is as far back as my memory goes,,,

A local drunk made a turn and drove his car directly into me (I was on a bike) when I was about 9 years old.

The cops came, found I was only banged and bruised,,,
they put me and the broken bike in the police car, and took me to my home. No charge against the driver.

He was a non-working local drunk,,, had about 6 kids,,, if they charged him or arrested him,,
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HARD ON HIS FAMILY!!

Yes,, times have changed,,,,
 

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Contact the District Attorney for you area.
 

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This is a scary situation - that guy needs to be grounded by any means neccessary. And I can just about bet he has no license and/or insurance.

As much as I would hate to be the one to make the call, in this situation I likely wouldd. In fact since I know most of the State Troopers I would stop in at the barracks in person and tell the story to the Lieutenant.

Here in Penna they are pretty strict with driving with no insurance - but they need to be notified. All it would take is a 30 second search on their system and they will know. Then they will be out right away and take the plate off the car.

Of course the guy is probably driving someone else's car. Then to have the license plate number would be very helpful.

Then of course there is the (my preferred) backwoods way of dealing with this. Each time I saw him in a car that same car would be disabled that following night.
 

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I was driving up to Northern Michigan a few years back on I-75 going about 75mph. A car flies by me doing 95+, goes from the left lane, onto the shoulder, then back across both lanes into the right lane and on the shoulder, back across the lines left, slowed down to 55 or so, then sped back up - totally erratic driving.

I called 911, connected to the State Police and they directed a unit to my location northbound. As I talked to the dispatcher I was giving her a play by play of this guys driving and our current location/speed (this was before camera phones) I had to go 100mph at times to keep him in sight, but the freeway had little traffic, and I was being very cautious. Dispatcher tells me to pull over when the Trooper pulls the guy over, which I do.

Trooper goes up to the person, talks with him for a little while, then comes back to talk to me. I told him everything I saw. He tells me "well - it doesn't appear that he has been drinking or is under the influence of anything. I think we just have a case of DWO.....Driving While Old.

I watched the guy drive away from the stop. He was JUST as dangerous as any drunk or distracted driver I've ever witnessed.

Did the same thing going through Detroit one day as I watched a lady bounce off the median wall and keep driving and swerving like nothing happened. This time she got arrested (apparently high on crack or something as I later got called by the police for an official statement, etc.) they used my 911 call as evidence in the cased and ended up not needing me to testify. Sure wish I had a camera phone at that time as well.

Just this morning watched a lady on her cellphone smash into 4 different curbs in her Tahoe SUV in a narrow lane. Road up the curb for a good 2-3 car lengths each time.

Tons of REALLY bad drivers out there.....
 

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I would write an email to the mayor, police chief, supervisors, council members or whoever has authority where you live in order to create an electronic paper trail to put them on notice. They will be forced to do a follow up investigation to cover their a$$es in case the criminal further injures someone. Go to the police and fill out a complaint to further the paper trail. The squeaky wheel gets greased in these times of lawyers and liability. I would even suggest contacting MADD for assistance.
 

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If, in fact, he has had that many "accidents" including one with a fatality, he certainly is not driving legally. Unfortunately, the only way to get him off the road is to have him put behind bars. You will have to build a coalition of neighbors in your area to have the police called every time he gets in a car and drives off. Eventually, he will be arrested so many times that a jail sentence will be inevitable.

I say these things because this is exactly how some neighbors and I (and my wife) got a perpetual drunk driver off of the road years ago when I lived in a suburban neighborhood in PA. Fortunately, we also had help from the "drunk's" spouse an son.

Good luck!
 

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Thanks for the suggestions

Thanks to all for the suggestions. The local police have been notified but I don't think they came to investigate the latest wreck even though the car is plainly visible from the road and parts of it are still at the accident site.

Virginia lets a person drive without liability insurance by paying a ridiculously low fee of something like $500/year. If the person has any license, I'm sure that's what he's done.

So far, the family doesn't seem willing to do anything. I'm sure they are concerned but no action.

If I suddenly disappear from the site, it may be because this guy hit me.

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Thanks to all for the suggestions. The local police have been notified but I don't think they came to investigate the latest wreck even though the car is plainly visible from the road and parts of it are still at the accident site.

Virginia lets a person drive without liability insurance by paying a ridiculously low fee of something like $500/year. If the person has any license, I'm sure that's what he's done.

So far, the family doesn't seem willing to do anything. I'm sure they are concerned but no action.

If I suddenly disappear from the site, it may be because this guy hit me.

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Like I said tree, be aware very aware... He sounds like a nut case that could explode for any reason what's so ever and at any time... Good luck with this guy..
 

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Absolutely

Like I said tree, be aware very aware... He sounds like a nut case that could explode for any reason what's so ever and at any time... Good luck with this guy..
He's a young man who has severely screwed up his life with drugs, alchohol and driving. His wife's grandfather offered to pay for their divorce if she would just throw him out of the house. I'm just hoping that he doesn't kill anyone else while driving. Apparently he has a restricted license, good only for going to work and back but is still driving whenever he want's to.

Thanks for the caution. I'm ready to hit the ditch most anytime but if he hits me or one of my family I will take every legal action to make sure he never drives again, assuming I'm around to do that.

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Wish I could

I think I'm the odd man out here....but I would just mind my own business.
Unfortunately, we are in an area where there's one road in and out. The last two wrecks have been on that road which I and my wife travel every day. So do another 50 or so people all of whom want to have some reasonable chance of getting home without facing a car on the wrong side of the road.

If he was only on private property and not driving on public roads, I'd say "too bad for you. . ." Since he is on public roads, violating a restricted license and is a hazard to me and my family, it's now my business too.

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It would be a shame if you keep losing a box of roofing nails out of your truck at the base of his driveway.
 

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The fact that his family will suffer from an arrest, you have to consider the consequences if he does get behind the wheel and hurts or worse, kills anyone else. It's a bad deal all the way around but he has no right to be on the road with innocent drivers going about their business period. It's a tough call but necessary.

-Lou
 
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