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I have a 2017 2032R tlb with 72" mmm with 340hrs on it (have wheel spacers and 2 sets of wheel weights). I have been considering putting it up for sale because I also have a 2013 x758 with roughly 250hrs. I bought the x758 because I didn't feel comfortable mowing our hills 15-22 degrees next to the lake on the 2032r. I have a tkv20 which I am not willing to give up, it makes leaf season so much better. I am thinking about getting a 1025r or a 2025r to replace both machines. The 2032r has essentially sat since November last year (end of leaf season). Has anybody ran downsized/consolidated with regrets or had issues with a smaller unit on hills? Both units are paid for, so this is not a financial issue. What is an issue is the space they both take up with little use.
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The little 1 and 2 series are kinda weak. I don't know that you would like to pull hills with a TKV running 2 pto's moving at a walking pace. 🤷‍♂️
One of my longest hills is 25 degree slope maybe 200 yards. I can stall my 1025 at WOT in high gear. I'm stuck in low 95% of my time and its slow enough I could probably read on the forums while I'm riding "theoretically" :censored:
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The little 1 and 2 series are kinda weak. I don't know that you would like to pull hills with a TKV running 2 pto's moving at a walking pace. 🤷‍♂️
One of my longest hills is 25 degree slope maybe 200 yards. I can stall my 1025 at WOT in high gear. I'm stuck in low 95% of my time and its slow enough I could probably read on the forums while I'm riding "theoretically" :censored:
LOL, love the analogy. I have to go parallel, I cannot run up and down.
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I like your setup though! If I could afford it, I would trade but I got broke-itis :(
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I like your setup though! If I could afford it, I would trade but I got broke-itis :(
I grew up working on messing around my uncle's farm (all JD). I had a JD zero turn when I moved to the property. As you can imagine with the hills, it got wet sometimes. So, to scratch the tractor itch, I started looking for a 1025r or 2025r. However, I found a 2032r on facebook (october 2019 with 220hrs on it) by a woman getting a divorce and wanted the tractor gone, reminded her of the ex. I paid for it what I would have paid for a new 2025r or 1025r with the same setup. Why would I pass it up? Bought it and love the dang thing, but that dang hill next to the pond worries me to death. No, I didn't think it would be an issue before I bought it, nor did I have a chance to try one before I bought it. So, I bought the x758 used for half the price of a new one in March 2020 year. But, I have a ton of trees, so the grass does not grow as fast as those without trees. I only have to mow every other week. Just seeing the 2032r sit, makes me cry. I own 2 acres, but the neighbor gives me access to his 80 acres of woods that surrounds me.
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If your plan is to keep the TKV20, I know my dealer sold a couple with 1025Rs, there's a lot of terrain change here, and they were not functional for some people due to the hills. They currently steer people away from them unless they have the 2032R or larger.
If your plan is to keep the TKV20, I know my dealer sold a couple with 1025Rs, there's a lot of terrain change here, and they were not functional for some people due to the hills. They currently steer people away from them unless they have the 2032R or larger.
Thanks @The Satch. Something to think about. I don't want to or have to give up anything, but I also don't like things just sitting around either.
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@The Satch maybe if I fill the tires I would feel more stable? I have avoided that just because they are a bear if you have to take them off. Plus, the lack of tire options without having to spend a fortune on rims would help. I currently have 2.5" spacers with wheel weights and r4s.

Asked the wife about it. She asked if I got a smaller tractor would we ever have to get a bigger one? I said, well I don't know. Well, she said if you don't know than it is a no go. She said I would rather have too much than not enough. Not enough costs way to much to correct. Then she said she would support whatever I thought was right. That is probably going to cost me.
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@The Satch maybe if I fill the tires I would feel more stable? I have avoided that just because they are a bear if you have to take them off. Plus, the lack of tire options without having to spend a fortune on rims would help. I currently have 2.5" spacers with wheel weights and r4s.

Asked the wife about it. She asked if I got a smaller tractor would we ever have to get a bigger one? I said, well I don't know. Well, she said if you don't know than it is a no go. She said I would rather have too much than not enough. Not enough costs way to much to correct. Then she said she would support whatever I thought was right. That is probably going to cost me.
I think you should definitely fill the tires, it will be much more stable. I have filled tires, and can't mow all of my slope side-hill, but I don't have wheel spacers, and some of my slope is very close to 30 degrees; generally when the tractor starts to crab, I switch to mowing straight up and backing down.

As far as being a bear if you have to take them off, look into a semi tire jack, they are designed to hold the tire and move it around, would make the job much easier. Something similar to this, or there are cheaper types with less features:
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@The Satch maybe if I fill the tires I would feel more stable? I have avoided that just because they are a bear if you have to take them off. Plus, the lack of tire options without having to spend a fortune on rims would help. I currently have 2.5" spacers with wheel weights and r4s.

Asked the wife about it. She asked if I got a smaller tractor would we ever have to get a bigger one? I said, well I don't know. Well, she said if you don't know than it is a no go. She said I would rather have too much than not enough. Not enough costs way to much to correct. Then she said she would support whatever I thought was right. That is probably going to cost me.
Absolutely fill the tires! You have to remember that all that weight transfers to the BOTTOM of the tire, thus lowering the center of gravity of the tractor. In most cases the feel of stability increases dramatically.

You Wife is correct. Keep the 2032R. As Satch said it gets a little dicey running a TKV20 with a 1025/2025 on hills, and steep grades.

I too have a 2032R with TKV20, but I have loaded R4's, and man, I take it on some steep side hills. Even have 6 wheel weights to put on it. It doesn't need them. I even have been using the 2032R with the 1106 sickle bar mower on it some really steep grades, Sickle mowers create a lot of sideways drag, but It handles it surprising well. I'd rather use it on the 2032R then the 4720 cab

Load those tires, then watch what it will do. IMHO selling or trading your 2032R would be a mistake that you would regret later. It is to capable a machine.

I made the mistake you're contemplating. I traded in a late model 955 in on my 4720 cab package. Worst mistake I made. Tried a 455 to replace it, worked, but missed my 955 badly. Finally found a 2032R and jumped on it, and couldn't be happier.

Trust me keep it, You will find more uses for it. It's paid for, and a fantastic set up with the TKV20. You'll get use to just looking at it. It's nice eye candy.

Allen.
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I will agree with loading the tires - like night and day on hills!

I’ve had my rear tires loaded on my 2520 since I bought it 14 years ago. Once in a while I think about having to remove the rears. I especially thought about it since I had to replace both front tires a couple years ago due to them leaking out the side walls. I thought the rears would do the same soon.

When I bought the tractor I could have man handled them. But now…no way. I’d just have to get a jack like shown above. Or…..just drain the fluid before removing them. I just have window washer fluid in mine which is easy to put back in with a cheap pump.
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I will agree with loading the tires - like night and day on hills!

I’ve had my rear tires loaded on my 2520 since I bought it 14 years ago. Once in a while I think about having to remove the rears. I especially thought about it since I had to replace both front tires a couple years ago due to them leaking out the side walls. I thought the rears would do the same soon.

When I bought the tractor I could have man handled them. But now…no way. I’d just have to get a jack like shown above. Or…..just drain the fluid before removing them. I just have window washer fluid in mine which is easy to put back in with a cheap pump.
You can try something like this:

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You can try something like this:

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That would work great and probably more of a reasonable price for me. Just so quick wrist action on the floor jack and it would be off.

While writing out this post I thought - then what? How am I going to get the heavy loaded tire into my pickup? My tractor with the loader is disabled missing a back tire.

So I would have to dump the fluid either way. And thinking more…I would probably need the dolly anyway even with an empty tire. Not sure of the weight but I’ll bet heavier than I can handle.
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You can try something like this:

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I use these all the time https://www.amazon.com/Lisle-14150-Wheel-Pilot-Master/dp/B07TJ1QQDT

These work great. Just put trans in neutral, wheel tire over to studs, turn hub to align pilot pins, slide rim on pins, throw 2 lugs in, and unscrew pilot pins. super easy.

I even use these for my loaded 4720 rear tires. Don't even have to buy the set. If you know what tread your lugs are, you can just get two of what you need. Couple of dollies, a jack and you are all set.

Allen
That would work great and probably more of a reasonable price for me. Just so quick wrist action on the floor jack and it would be off.

While writing out this post I thought - then what? How am I going to get the heavy loaded tire into my pickup? My tractor with the loader is disabled missing a back tire.

So I would have to dump the fluid either way. And thinking more…I would probably need the dolly anyway even with an empty tire. Not sure of the weight but I’ll bet heavier than I can handle.
That's why it's so nice to have that 2nd tractor and loader. If you can swing it.
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