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You guiys know that JD wants "break in" oil to be run in their 30 series tractors till they have 100 hours on them. It's a lower additized oil that aloows for a bit more wear in the beginning in order to seat rings and properly break in the engine. I plan on using Delo 400 Synthetic 5W-40 after 100 hours, in my new 6330.
I have been busy as a beaver since I got the tractor last April, and it only has 28 hours on it. No snow removal work needed this winter. I guess I'm a paranoid, but I'm tempted to mow my pasture next week (35 acres), and expect I might get up to 50 acres just as the tractor is a year old, then dump that oil, put a new filter, and re-fill again with break-in oil till 100 hours are met. Is this foolishness? That oil is not junk and should be just fine for the 100 hours, but I worry about the short start-ups I've done with it so far and prolly would feel better if I changed it. 50 hours on an "over the road truck" is about 2500 miles, no one would change the trucks oil then, foolishness and expensive. The JD shop foreman told me not to worry, but yet I "love" my tractor and do worry a bit. Your feedback will most likely get me buying oil or running what I have. Thanks
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You will do no harm in changing it at 50 with fresh break-in oil, and it sounds like it will put your mind at ease as well so go for it.
I vote to change it

I'm going to do the same for my tractor. New break-in oil and filter at 50 hrs:thumbup1gif: FWIW, changing your oil at least every year should be minimum requirements in my mind. :drinks:
I'll throw a wrench in this.:D

I asked my dealer the same question at my 50 hour mark about the breakin 'till 100 hrs. He asked me how I ran it. When I told him that 95% of those 50 hours were at max rpm, he told me if the machine wasn't babied there is no need to go the extra 50.

Greg
I would take a different stance. I would change the oil out at 50ish hours, but I would go right over to synthetic. Many cars/trucks/diesels are shipped from the factory with synthetic oil and do not need break in oil. I do not think our tractors do either.

Many starts are "harder" on motors due to the engine being "dry" than a longer run.

IMHO, your break in is done at 50 hours and its not worth running a lesser grade oil than what you would normally run.
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IMHO, your break in is done at 50 hours and its not worth running a lesser grade oil than what you would normally run.
I agree Brian.
The only reason I didn't go synthetic after my 50 hr change,was my warranty. I thought it would have been voided. I found out later,that it wouldn't have mattered.


Greg
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FWIW, changing your oil at least every year should be minimum requirements in my mind. :drinks:
My manual specifically states hour intervals or yearly which ever comes first.

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My dealer told me to change out at 50 hours and then every 100 hours or sooner if the sticker under the hood dictates.
At delivery, my dealer provided me with a replacement filter and suggested that at 10 hours I should change the filter and use break in oil up until 50 hours. I plan to do this, but do not know what oil I should purchase. What is it that makes an oil "break in" and which oils including and beyond the JD oils meet the standards for this? I know that there are only 3-4 manufacturers of these oils, and would imagine that equivalent off-label oils can be found. Any suggestions?
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Chemguy,

I don't think I've ever heard of anyone changing the filter at 10 hours. You'll need to add some oil after the filter change and one problem you'll have is Deere break-in oil is only available in one gallon containers or larger. I'd ask your dealer if he could give you a pint or so of break-in oil to use after the filter change. Otherwise I'm not sure what you'll do with almost a gallon of break-in oil that you'll have leftover.

My dealer actually recommends doing the first service at 75 hours. I purchased the filter kit and oil and hydraulic fluid, and plan on doing it myself at 50 hours on my 2520. I'm up to 38 hours so it will only be another 2 weeks or so until I do the service. I've been working the tractor pretty hard, so I'm going right to the Deere synthetic oil.

As a side note, my dealer said you could extend engine oil change intervals depending on the oil used. Online Deere literature also states this. With Deere Hy-Gard, I think you can almost double the interval.
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Chemguy,

I don't think I've ever heard of anyone changing the filter at 10 hours. You'll need to add some oil after the filter change and one problem you'll have is Deere break-in oil is only available in one gallon containers or larger. I'd ask your dealer if he could give you a pint or so of break-in oil to use after the filter change. Otherwise I'm not sure what you'll do with almost a gallon of break-in oil that you'll have leftover.

My dealer actually recommends doing the first service at 75 hours. I purchased the filter kit and oil and hydraulic fluid, and plan on doing it myself at 50 hours on my 2520. I'm up to 38 hours so it will only be another 2 weeks or so until I do the service. I've been working the tractor pretty hard, so I'm going right to the Deere synthetic oil.

As a side note, my dealer said you could extend engine oil change intervals depending on the oil used. Online Deere literature also states this. With Deere Hy-Gard, I think you can almost double the interval.
Andy,

Thanks! 10 hours did seem a bit quick to me, but I figured that it couldn't hurt. I'll get in touch with my dealer later today.

Pete
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I understand what th dealer is talking about. When new parts are put together there is going to be some wear until they are broken in. Changing the filter is going to catch any metal shaving that may be in the motor. IMO a filter is a small investment considering the price of a tractor!
My 5100m manual says anywhere from 100-500 hours and my dealer said do it at 250 hours.He says they use much better parts and oils now.:unknown::think::read:banghead:
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