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Comcast to turn your home into WiFi hotspot

Well folks; here is the latest nonsense from Comcrap. The USA Today story posted on the 9News website is vague; but the 9:00 PM 9News anchor (no video that I could find) was clearer in that Comcrap intends to turn your wireless router into Wi-Fi hotspots primarily for its customers.

OK, my guess this only applies to router/modems/gateways leased from Comcrap; but I had an online chat with customer service tonight to verify this. Sure enough if you lease your modem/router/gateway from Comcrap you are automatically a Wi-Fi hotspot unless you opt out of the program.

Since I refuse to lease equipment from them; we have our own modem and wireless router, which exempts us from their program. Quite frankly I don’t want my router to be used as a wireless hotspot without my permission, which is why ours is secured. Comcrap claims it’s secure and that outside traffic can’t get into your network…yeah right; I’m sure Target felt the same way about their network being secure. Any network can be hacked; but I see no reason to add another chink in our digital armor by participating in this.

My suggestion is that you buy your own modem and router and quit using Comcrap’s junk. If you choose to use their equipment, then opt out of the program by contacting customer service. I already found a number of hotspots relatively close to us. Note the screen grab shows names and addresses of those hotspots. I’ve also attached a transcript of my chat with Comcrap this evening.

Now for those of you not using Comcrap as your ISP (Internet Service Provider), you may be wondering why I’m sending this out. Simple; if Comcrap is doing this, you can bet others will follow suit.
 

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And if your wireless network isn't secure.....SECURE IT!!!

This wrong on so many levels. The biggest issue I have with this type of service; there is already an issue of pedophiles using unsuspecting homeowner's networks to trade child porn. These people drive around neighborhoods till they find an open network and then park while they do their business. When the IP hits the FBI's radar they come looking for the homeowner. Not good.
 

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This is just wrong. Lock down the routers, change the password often and if possible don't broadcast the SSID name of your wireless network. And don't buy comcast equipment.


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A friend of mine was having trouble with his internet connection. He has Verizon DSL service. The service people swapped out a bunch of stuff, and the latest thing they did was give him a new modem with built-in Wi-Fi. I can see Verizon gearing up for the same thing!
 

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The Comcast setup like this that I saw at a business had a completely separate line and router for the Comcast WiFi vs. the business' router. It could be different for home service. If it is separate like the business install I saw though there should be no real worry about security on your network vs. their WiFi.
 

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I'm thinking I'd be billing Comcast for electricity usage, as well as rental property fees, and my electricity rates would be quite high, since I maintain the transmission lines in the structure. And I would declare that section of my residence on my taxes as a business expense.
 

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I'm thinking I'd be billing Comcast for electricity usage, as well as rental property fees, and my electricity rates would be quite high, since I maintain the transmission lines in the structure. And I would declare that section of my residence on my taxes as a business expense.
Don't forget to lease them the air space around the house too. The wifi signal needs to travel trough.

I can only assume you guys get unlimited internet usage? Here in Canada we really don't have unlimited usage on a wide scale and are charge a ridiculous extra fee if we go over. So if they started this up here I would be furious if someone else was using up my usage.
 

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The Comcast setup like this that I saw at a business had a completely separate line and router for the Comcast WiFi vs. the business' router. It could be different for home service. If it is separate like the business install I saw though there should be no real worry about security on your network vs. their WiFi.
It is the same piece of equipment, but an external and internal ssid separated with a VLan. The external traffic is still authenticated with a valid Comcast user id and password, therefore logged to that user. Configured correctly, it is secure. Since it is a separate VLan, the external traffic wouldn't count toward your data cap, if you are lucky enough to have one like we are here.

My wireless setup isn't a normal home setup, so I can't use Comcast equipment. Even if it wasn't I still wouldn't use their gear and I think it is a load of bs. I'm not their target for this service, though. You'd have to be trespassing to pick up a signal from a comcast WAP in my house. The more realistic targets are areas near public spaces. They want a "free" Wifi HotSpot network by using "their network", which just happens to terminate in your house.

If you know your neighbors (and care about them, I guess:) ) check for wireless networks around you every once in a while. If you see xfinitywifi, ask around, find out who it is have them opt-out.

If you want to see the HotSpots around you, click here
 

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Here is their explination:

Xfinity WiFi Neighborhood Hotspots: Comcast began providing its residential customers with Xfinity Wireless Gateways the ability to have a second “xfinitywifi” signal (called SSID) in their home that is separate and distinct from their private and secure in-home Wi-Fi signal. This second signal provides visiting Xfinity Internet customers Wi-Fi access without the need to use the homeowner’s private network password.
If you want to do this without the "help" of Comcast, most routers these days support guest networks/multiple ssids.
 

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I have a Commicast modem but I bought my own router which is wireless capable,but I have the computers wired. Basically side by side and no need for wireless. Only reason for the wireless is my wife's Kindle. I'm assuming we are OK. Not really a need to worry about us being a hotspot anyway. We are pretty much alone out here.:)
 

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Nice to be able to get decent internet being rural some. Where we were it was only satellite internet. YIKES!

I have a Commicast modem but I bought my own router which is wireless capable,but I have the computers wired. Basically side by side and no need for wireless. Only reason for the wireless is my wife's Kindle. I'm assuming we are OK. Not really a need to worry about us being a hotspot anyway. We are pretty much alone out here.:)
 

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We don't even use wireless here, had them hardwired the house and bypassd the router. Everything is wireless at this point, our electric meter, next will be the water meter I assume.
Our gas and water meters are wireless. I'm surprised the electric company hasn't upgraded the neighborhood to wireless meters.

Geez I can remember as a kid the gas meter man coming around once a month to read the meter, which was in the basement. Mom's dog went ape crap over the stranger entering the house.
 

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Here is their explination:



If you want to do this without the "help" of Comcast, most routers these days support guest networks/multiple ssids.
Yep. My linksys router does, but I never use it. Nobody's ever here that long or they don't need wifi anyway


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