Fair price? Do I need a backhoe?
New user, but been lurking for the past couple of years trying to decide what to buy.
I know value and worth are personal, but I'm trying to decide if I should buy a used tractor or wait and get a new one.
I found a 2016 1025r with a loader, backhoe, and 54" mower. It's at a dealer asking $21k. Has right around 150 hours and looks in very good condition. I'm in the Midwest. I think a new one configured the same will be around $26k. 2.9% for the used one and 0% for the new as far ss financing goes.
I have 10 acres of mostly woods with about an acre of yard around the house. I have a gravel driveway to maintain, but I already have a plow on my side by side for snow removal. I need to run some drainage lines around 150' which is my justification for the backhoe to the wife, but I'm sure I will find other uses once I have it. I could also rent a small track hoe for a day and be a few thousand ahead.
Again, I know it's a personal decision, but what has been your experiences? Does the backhoe get used a much a you would like? Or should I skip this one and save quite a bit of money that I can use on other implements?
I know value and worth are personal, but I'm trying to decide if I should buy a used tractor or wait and get a new one.
I found a 2016 1025r with a loader, backhoe, and 54" mower. It's at a dealer asking $21k. Has right around 150 hours and looks in very good condition. I'm in the Midwest. I think a new one configured the same will be around $26k. 2.9% for the used one and 0% for the new as far ss financing goes.
I have 10 acres of mostly woods with about an acre of yard around the house. I have a gravel driveway to maintain, but I already have a plow on my side by side for snow removal. I need to run some drainage lines around 150' which is my justification for the backhoe to the wife, but I'm sure I will find other uses once I have it. I could also rent a small track hoe for a day and be a few thousand ahead.
Again, I know it's a personal decision, but what has been your experiences? Does the backhoe get used a much a you would like? Or should I skip this one and save quite a bit of money that I can use on other implements?
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Before I got my 1025 I had a contractor come for a few hours with a mini-ex ($800) to do some land work. I spent the next two weeks of my vacation working to finish what he should have done in the 5 hours he was there.
That in itself convinced me that whence I became able to get a compact tractor that a backhoe would be a part of it.
They're not for everyone but I was willing to pay for the convenience.
BTW I'm crappy at the controls. No way could I economically rent equipment to do the job.
YMMV.
That in itself convinced me that whence I became able to get a compact tractor that a backhoe would be a part of it.
They're not for everyone but I was willing to pay for the convenience.
BTW I'm crappy at the controls. No way could I economically rent equipment to do the job.
YMMV.
I rented a Yanmar backhoe this summer to make a french drain. The Yanmar engine was nearly the same in looks and size as my 2025R. It was a dry, warm summer here and once below the 18" topsoil, we hit hard pan clay. It was a battle with the 12" wide bucket with 3 teeth, to get very deep into that clay. An excavator would have done the job much quicker. A Case 630 BH would have probably dug right through it, but none of these mini-4WD tractors can compete with 60 hp or more. A tracked excavator would also have been ideal.
In my particular case, I have no real projects beyond this drain in mind, so buying a BH for my 2025R would never have even realistically occurred to me. No way, it simply didn't pencil out. Now I'm really glad I didn't get one for my 2025R, because at 25 HP and given the total weight of the unit, it would have probably not out preformed the Yanmar in any case.
Just my 2¢....
Dan
In my particular case, I have no real projects beyond this drain in mind, so buying a BH for my 2025R would never have even realistically occurred to me. No way, it simply didn't pencil out. Now I'm really glad I didn't get one for my 2025R, because at 25 HP and given the total weight of the unit, it would have probably not out preformed the Yanmar in any case.
Just my 2¢....
Dan
Problem for me was....
A Back Ho......Dumps dirt left or right x 50* or whatever.
You can't swing around and dump into a buggy /trailer..whatever......piles everywhere with double the cleanup work.
Rent one.(bh).try it...switch it to Cat controls ..is that possible?
How bout a 30" +- grading bucket........
Rent a mini ex......tell me how that goes....
A Back Ho......Dumps dirt left or right x 50* or whatever.
You can't swing around and dump into a buggy /trailer..whatever......piles everywhere with double the cleanup work.
Rent one.(bh).try it...switch it to Cat controls ..is that possible?
How bout a 30" +- grading bucket........
Rent a mini ex......tell me how that goes....
Definitely prefer cat controls, however now that I've got more time on the 260, it's not akward anymore.
Problem for me was....
A Back Ho......Dumps dirt left or right x 50* or whatever.
You can't swing around and dump into a buggy /trailer..whatever......piles everywhere with double the cleanup work.
Rent one.(bh).try it...switch it to Cat controls ..is that possible?
How bout a 30" +- grading bucket........
Rent a mini ex......tell me how that goes....
Oh crud. I have a project coming up where I was hoping to use the backhoe to dig, and dump into my carryall. Then transport to dump site.
I have never tried this with the 1025r , however.. has anyone else found it impossible to dig with the backhoe and put the dirt into a bed/wagon/trailer ??
Moving dirt twice is not a pleasant thing to look forward to.
Having said that, I am VERY glad my 1025r came with the backhoe. I have been using it as a lifting and placing device for phone pole pieces, and it has been EXCELLENT.
I have never tried this with the 1025r , however.. has anyone else found it impossible to dig with the backhoe and put the dirt into a bed/wagon/trailer ??
Moving dirt twice is not a pleasant thing to look forward to.
Having said that, I am VERY glad my 1025r came with the backhoe. I have been using it as a lifting and placing device for phone pole pieces, and it has been EXCELLENT.
@Volkemon - Depends on how big of a hole and how tall you dump container is.
Well, ask a vague question, and get an appropriate answer. My bad. I was a couple beers into relaxing and reading.
This is what I meant by a carryall, its made by Club Car.
A carryall 2 actually , ~16" longer than a carryall 1. Same thing as a Turf 2. Most efficient work cart I have yet to use. Hardly a square inch of space unused, and same essential design from 1985 on. I got a good deal on a bunch (1997-2013) from a fleet disposal. 2 scoops of the FEL fills the bed with sand. Electric dump saves my back yet again. Nice low bed height. Does one job, WORK, and does it very well. It is classified as a 'golf cart' in the eyes of the town, so it is OK for on street use here.
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And of course, MOST people would be digging a hole. I am removing part of a hill, and putting in a ~6' tall retaining wall. The portion of the hill shown unmown, and closest here. Going down maybe 6" below current driveway grade to allow for concrete.
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And I went ahead and checked the swing and reach of the bucket.... this will work out FINE! I can swing the boom from the 'dump in the cart' position to the concrete wall NO problem. I may have to move every other load, or maybe even every load, but there is plenty of movement in the boom to dig, and to allow for loading the dirt.
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Now all I have to do is take the log tongs off, clean the stuff out of the bed, and get digging. Get some pics in the 'What did I do with my SCUT today' thread.
Sure, a 1025r with a backhoe is no mini-ex. But it should be able to get the job done with ONE move of the dirt, not two. That other post had me thinking that there wasnt enough mobility to do this. WHEW!!!
Hope this contributes a little in the thoughts about needing a backhoe. I am sure glad mine came with one.
This is what I meant by a carryall, its made by Club Car.
A carryall 2 actually , ~16" longer than a carryall 1. Same thing as a Turf 2. Most efficient work cart I have yet to use. Hardly a square inch of space unused, and same essential design from 1985 on. I got a good deal on a bunch (1997-2013) from a fleet disposal. 2 scoops of the FEL fills the bed with sand. Electric dump saves my back yet again. Nice low bed height. Does one job, WORK, and does it very well. It is classified as a 'golf cart' in the eyes of the town, so it is OK for on street use here.
And of course, MOST people would be digging a hole. I am removing part of a hill, and putting in a ~6' tall retaining wall. The portion of the hill shown unmown, and closest here. Going down maybe 6" below current driveway grade to allow for concrete.
And I went ahead and checked the swing and reach of the bucket.... this will work out FINE! I can swing the boom from the 'dump in the cart' position to the concrete wall NO problem. I may have to move every other load, or maybe even every load, but there is plenty of movement in the boom to dig, and to allow for loading the dirt.
Now all I have to do is take the log tongs off, clean the stuff out of the bed, and get digging. Get some pics in the 'What did I do with my SCUT today' thread.
Sure, a 1025r with a backhoe is no mini-ex. But it should be able to get the job done with ONE move of the dirt, not two. That other post had me thinking that there wasnt enough mobility to do this. WHEW!!!
Hope this contributes a little in the thoughts about needing a backhoe. I am sure glad mine came with one.
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