[SunWorks]

Hello,
Was out doing some spring preparation work and accidentally broke off the hydraulic hose fitting (nipple) on my bucket tilt cylinder.
At first I thought it was a threaded nipple into the cylinder, but it does not appear so. Upon further inspection the only threads are from the nipple to connect to the hose fitting.
The nipple itself broke off and after looking around am getting sticker shock from the retail cost of a new bucket tilt cylinder, part #AH210821.
Is this a job that a hydraulic repair shop can fix?

• What are my options beyond a $700 new cylinder?
• Repair?
• Aftermarket?

Not finding anything in used online.
Things got busy here in a hurry, which is of course the worst time for a breakdown, so hoping some expertise here might save time and re$ource$ on the repair job.
Just seems hard to believe this cylinder is no good any more because an exposed hydraulic fitting got broken off.
Thank you in advance!

And here is a panned out view:

Finally, this is what it's supposed to look like (the other side):

 

[SunWorks]

Oops.
I should have put this in the "Implements & Attachments" or "Hydraulics" category / forum.
How do I change categories?
Thank you.

 

[Kennyd]

Oops.
I should have put this in the "Implements & Attachments" or "Hydraulics" category / forum.
How do I change categories?
Thank you.

Actually the Hydraulic forum is a better place, I moved it.

 

[Kennyd]

You can take your cylinder to a welding shop and have the fitting TIG welded back on, some hydraulic shops may do it too. The fittings are resistance welded only the body of the cylinder, and they are a weak spot.

 

[Gizmo2]

I feel certain it can be repaired.
Have you checked the cost of just a new Cylinder Barrel?

 

[dixie460]

I'd have it TIG welded. Fully retract the ram first to keep heat off the piston seals.

 

[SunWorks]

I feel certain it can be repaired.
Have you checked the cost of just a new Cylinder Barrel?

i have not. Yet.
From what I'm gathering here, that would be the 2nd option after the TIG welding option.
Last night, when looking up the part number, I did try to find just the cylinder barrel with the fittings on them, but did not see that specific part.
Seemed like they listed every other part, so gotta believe it's a matter of me just not knowing where to find the Cylinder barrel.
Thank you.

 

[SunWorks]

I'd have it TIG welded. Fully retract the ram first to keep heat off the piston seals.

Good advice on retracting the ram first... manually of course! haha... there was quite a stream of fluid when I saw it was snapped off.
Not very funny at the time.

 

[SunWorks]

Take your cylinder to a welding shop and have the fitting TIG welded back on, some hydraulic shops may do it too. The fittings are resistance welded only the body of the cylinder, and they are a weak spot.

First. Thanks for moving the question to this forum.
It was late, I posted in a hurry and noticed the wrong location right after posting. - Appreciate it.
Yah. I like this option.
Basically, disconnect the loader lines for the bucket back at the tractor to shut off the flow of fluid to the bucket cylinders, then remove the cylinder.
Very glad you gentlemen appear to act like this is very do-able.

What about welding a guard or shield onto the ram to protect it down the line? My gut says don't weld a guard on, but maybe something like a clamp mounted shield for this fitting.
It's right out there in the open, exposed to this kind of accident.

 

[Gizmo2]

I did try to find just the cylinder barrel with the fittings on them, but did not see that specific part.

Maybe https://partscatalog.deere.com/jdrc/sidebyside/equipment/71535/referrer/navigation/pgId/64030199

 

[Kennyd]

A guard would be great, but...you don't want to risk wrapping the barrel, do as little welding as possible to make it serviceable.

 

[SunWorks]

Maybe https://partscatalog.deere.com/jdrc/sidebyside/equipment/71535/referrer/navigation/pgId/64030199

You know your way around. Thank you.
Whoa.
Still a pricey part:
11 - Hydraulic Cylinder Barrel, Part Number AH212556
Subtotal $441.86 USD
Plus the $ rebuiild $.
Well... will try the welding shop first.

 

[SunWorks]

A guard would be great, but...you don't want to risk wrapping the barrel, do as little welding as possible to make it serviceable.

In other words: Minimize the heat. Period.
But a sort of band-clamp attached guard would avoid heat, so that sounds viable.
Thank you.

 

[Kennyd]

But a sort of band-clamp attached guard would avoid heat, so that sounds viable.
Thank you.

That my friend sounds like an excellent idea

Maybe a new product in the works for us

 

[SunWorks]

That my friend sounds like an excellent idea

Maybe a new product in the works for us

Go for it.
At first I was PO'd for this happening... and yes, maybe was getting too aggressive with the stump bucket, but dang, that fitting is right out there in the open, very exposed and vulnerable.
Live and learn for sure, but prevention is now high on the "to-do" list.
Will keep you up to date the best I can on how this progresses.
DEF appreciate the guidance and responses.

 

[Sharpie]

I have one that has been welded back on. It works fine.

 

[SunWorks]

I have one that has been welded back on. It works fine.

Cool.
I got mine to the welding shop this afternoon. It's a quality shop, so feel pretty good about the whole process.
Thanks!

 

[Gizmo2]

Cool.
I got mine to the welding shop this afternoon. It's a quality shop, so feel pretty good about the whole process.
Thanks!

Be sure to let us know how you make out.

 

[SunWorks]

Be sure to let us know how you make out.

The machine shop TIG welded a new nipple on to the cylinder.
Had it done the next day.
Hooked it back up, worked the air out of the lines (no problem at all) and have been using it for a few days now, making sure I don't get anything close to that part again... and as of tonight:
No leaks.
No issues.
No problem!
Haven't gotten the bill yet, but am guessing it will make me smile. He said "we do a lot of these" and doesn't sound like it took long.
Woo-hoo... I am relieved AND happy.
Thank you for the advice and keeping me calm.
The forum sure helped with everything, including minimizing down time.
Got that last stump out tonight and can now start transplanting from the little nursery into this area using the same stump bucket to transplant the apricot trees that dug out the stumps.
I know that I've read mixed comments about Titan attachments, but I've got a raft of them and from this stump bucket to the grapples, to the posthole digger, to the man-basket to rear ballast box, I do not baby them and am very pleased.
This stump bucket is a GOOD tool!
Clinton

and another view:

 

[Gizmo2]

The machine shop TIG welded a new nipple on to the cylinder.
Had it done the next day.
Hooked it back up, worked the air out of the lines (no problem at all) and have been using it for a few days now, making sure I don't get anything close to that part again... and as of tonight:
No leaks.
No issues.
No problem!

Life is good. Thanks for the followup.