[Lohe]

Edit: I backed out of this deal and getting a new one instead thanks for all the advise.

2020 with 270H and he is asking 23K will also come with a rake. Loader has tooth bar and dual wheels.
I will need to get a trailer still. But going to borrow one and probably pick it up tonight as long as everything looks good in person.

 

[workinonit]

Looks like he probably needed those duals.

 

[scooterman]

A 2020 with 270 hours seems a bit high. I would check that there are no leaks from the tranny, look at the motor oil and hydro fluid. I’d also ask for service records (even if he did them himself). That’s high hours in a short time.

 

[PickupMan]

I’m not up with pricing. But duals tooth bar and a rake is roughly 1000$.

What’s a brand new tlb cost ? Seems like for that money you could have new and buy additional things just fine.

 

[cc1999]

I was thinking that sounds like $3-4000 off what all that stuff including the tractor, would have cost new.
Not a great deal but not terrible either.

 

[MattL]

I'd be concerned with the duals and the additional stress they put on the trans housing. If you show up and the outside tires are at max PSI - I'd likely walk. If the duals are at a low pressure and really just on there for lateral stability (roll over resistance) I'd give it a deeper dive in to service records, oil condition, etc. Being that it's so recent I'd also want to see either a sales receipt that it wasn't financed or if it was a payoff confirmation. 270 hours isn't a low number, but if it's been cared for (worked hard is fine) it's got likely a ton of time left in it. But again, those duals would likely push me towards a different but similar machine. I think a hydrostatic trans on these 1Rs is $5K.

Edit: Just thinking outloud.... if the PIA grease zerk on the front of the driveshaft is properly lubed, that would be a reasonable indication that the tractor was decently maintained.

 

[Jimmy Walker]

Maybe it depends on location if that price is ok. Here in KY, that wouldn't be a good deal. My 2020 TLB was 21K at dealer last year. 🤷‍♂️

 

[ElevatorGuy]

I don’t think it’s a ton of hours on a 2020 machine for someone that actually bought it for a need. Not trying to start a war but a lot of people buy these and it’s much more machine than they need. I absolutely hate the duals but it does appear he needed them. I was quoted 22k for my tractor setup as it is but with the hoe. I opted not to get the Hoe and paid 16.5k. I think that price is too high.

 

[Lohe]

I called local dealer they have 2 in stock and would be around 25k but then also have sales tax would put me at around 26.8K.

The dealer said it would still be under warranty.
he said he added the duals more for stability I will probably remove them and just keep as spares. I offered him 21k seems more on pair for those hours etc. will see if he accepts other wise might go look at a new one instead.

 

[MattL]

@Lohe Good luck! Be sure it's paid off/owned outright. If it's sold while being used as collateral for a JD loan, You don't want to buy something that your can't legally own (per the terms of a JD finance agreement).

 

[Frank McElroy]

It would be good to know if there is still a finance loan on this tractor. Have the seller show you paperwork on how he paid for the tractor. His dealer can also tell you if he took out a loan to buy it.

 

[cc1999]

Yea, your dealer can check the vin number for liens.
That might be what is driving the asking price, that could be what is owed on it.

 

[JR Diyer]

Being that the $$$ numbers are so close, I'd walk away and buy new or find a better deal. Even if he showed maintenance records and proof of ownership - you don't know if it was beat. Buying used is a gamble.

 

[Rule292]

I’m not up with pricing. But duals tooth bar and a rake is roughly 1000$.

What’s a brand new tlb cost ? Seems like for that money you could have new and buy additional things just fine.

I paid $22,000 for a new 2021 TLB six months ago. In my neck of the woods the dealers don't have dozens of tractors but they have at least a few with various options.

 

[ClydeLogan]

Sounds as if you have already decided to pay and pick it up, so it is a bit late in the game to be asking for advice.

You will not have the time to do a really decent pre-purchase exam, particularly as you plan to go with a trailer in the evening, even assuming you know what you are looking at and for. How much experience around these small tractors have you had?

IMO, you are making a relatively uninformed bet that might cost you a lot of money over and above what you will have already paid the seller. If you truly will be a virgin tractor owner and can afford it, now is the time to buy new. Even buying used directly from a dealer would be preferable to this.

And you mentioned buying a trailer, which you definitely might need sooner than later for this tractor. This is another financial factor to make buying new look better. It's unlikely you will need a trailer of your own for another year or more. Do you already own a trailer-capable truck as well?

 

[cc1999]

I believe there is a lot of dealers that offer decent the trailers in a package deal with tractor and put it all in on the 0% promo financing . All the dealers around me offer pkg deals with trailers.

 

[SulleyBear]

The number of hours on the machine don't concern me. I had 180 hours on my 1025r by time it was 6 months old. Now, at 3+ years, its at 645 hours.

It's misleading to think this 2020 machine is covered under the warranty coverage the same as a new machine would be. The reason is the bulk of the "complete warranty" is either at or near expiration, depending when this machine was first delivered to the original owner.

The warranty is broken into two specific measures of time,

A. The first 24 months following delivery to the original owner. During this time, most things other than batteries, tires, belts, etc. are covered under the warranty until either 24 months have passed or the machine reaches 2,000 hours of use.

B. The remaining 48 months following the completion of the first 24 months of ownership by the original owner, assuming the machine does not have 2,000 hours of use. The Power Train Warranty covers during this time and the Power Train warranty is limited, its not a "Bumper to Bumper" warranty that some think it is.

The warranty terms are pretty clearly spelled out at the link below. Just understand that once a machine reaches the 24 month time frame and still has not reached 2,000 hours of use, the Power Train warranty covers the engine and parts of the power train only, from that point forward until the warranty expires.

Personally, if there was a new machine available for within $4,000 of this machines asking price, I would select to buy a new machine directly, instead of assuming this machine's remaining limited warranty. Also, the dual rear wheels could give Deere a reason to deny warranty coverage due to the "Unapproved Modification or Use of the machine"

https://www.deere.com/assets/pdfs/common/parts-and-service/warranty-protection-plans/dc1360-warrantystatement-us-2021-en.pdf

 

[Lohe]

Sounds as if you have already decided to pay and pick it up, so it is a bit late in the game to be asking for advice.

You will not have the time to do a really decent pre-purchase exam, particularly as you plan to go with a trailer in the evening, even assuming you know what you are looking at and for. How much experience around these small tractors have you had?

IMO, you are making a relatively uninformed bet that might cost you a lot of money over and above what you will have already paid the seller. If you truly will be a virgin tractor owner and can afford it, now is the time to buy new. Even buying used directly from a dealer would be preferable to this.

And you mentioned buying a trailer, which you definitely might need sooner than later for this tractor. This is another financial factor to make buying new look better. It's unlikely you will need a trailer of your own for another year or more. Do you already own a trailer-capable truck as well?

Naw I actually backed out of the deal and ended up going to the JD dealer and will be pulling the trigger on it tomorrow. They have to truck in the machine from another store but said it would only take a day or 2.

but wasn’t worried about the PPI I was a technician for 10 years. In fact a Yanmar I rented last month broke down they told me 2 days before they could come out to fix it. So I said screw that and fixed it my self. Worked out good they didn’t charge me as much for the rental.

Have a smaller dual axle ATV type trailer it could probably handle the machine but would be scetchy.
And pretty sure my 3500 duramax can tow it just fine.

 

[ClydeLogan]

Naw I actually backed out of the deal and ended up going to the JD dealer and will be pulling there trigger on it tomorrow. They have to truck in the machine from another store but said it would only take a day or 2.

but wasn’t worried about the PPI I was a technician for 10 years. In fact a Yanmar I rented last month broke down they told me 2 days before they could come out to fix it. So I said screw that and fixed it my self. Worked out good they didn’t charge me as much for the rental.

Have a smaller dual axle ATV type trailer it could probably handle the machine but would be scetchy.
And pretty sure my 3500 duramax can tow it just fine.

If you have any money left over, everyone here on GTT will be happy to give you free advice about all the other must-have accessories and implements you will will be needing.

 

[machineryman]

That tractor had a lot of extras that will cost you a considerable amount. Looked like he had a nice machine.